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re: Abdul El-Sayed Is Not A Real Doctor?

Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:05 pm to
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.and you're NOT a physician until you pass the United States Medical Licensing exam.


Passing Step 1 and Step 2 of the USMLE are among the minimum qualifications to graduate from medical school, with Step 3 taken during intern year, but it isn't the hardest test. He's a doctor by definition. You can quibble about whether he should use the word 'physician' but he's absolutely a doctor.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40042 posts
Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:09 pm to
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Credentials do not equal competence. He likely was DEI'd into the degree.


Who said they did? He is a doctor because he has a doctorate. And the minimum of graduating from medical school include passing two incredibly difficult exams, Step 1 and Step 2 of the USMLE. It is hard to 'DEI' into the degree given the difficulty of that exam. People who aren't cut out for medicine fail out well before then, generally.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:24 pm to
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Abdul El-Sayed Is Not A Real Doctor?

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He earned his Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) from Columbia University

You can criticize his politics without lying about the man
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/14/26 at 10:29 pm to
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Then, let's see him go to Our Lady of the Lake Regional Medical Center in Baton Rouge, Louisiana and apply for privledges to be on staff..... He may be an academic doctor, but he hasn't earned his stripes, and he is not a true medical doctor.


Unfortunately for you, your opinion isn’t relevant.

If you have an MD, you are a medical doctor. Just accept it and move on.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
39491 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 6:53 am to
I know several people personally that don't work in the area that they completed there college or post graduate degrees in. Attorney that works in a CPA office, Pharmacist that runs a lumber yard, a geologist that works in sales. Finishing an MD program makes you an MD. I'm sure he would have to do a lot of things that he didn't do post graduate to do any doctoring but it doesn't make him any less a doctor. Don't care for him but that's the truth.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91750 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:28 am to
My issue is that it's misleading.

A reasonable person would think a physician is a doctor who practices. People my have ethical issues with that.


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Many state public health and legal codes explicitly define a "physician" strictly as someone who holds an active state license. From a legal and regulatory standpoint within those jurisdictions, using the title without a license can run afoul of the state's legal definitions.





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State Public health code defines the title of physician as “an individual who is licensed or authorized” under Michigan law “to engage in the practice of medicine.” 



So according to Michigan, he is not.



And his rebuttal was that he went to school with physician in its name. So didn't even use yours. Well it's in the school name.



This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 7:34 am
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5087 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:44 am to
I think he’s a good dude. He wants to stop the trump/israel endless war racket, make billionaires pay more, and reverse the upward flow of wealth that Trump’s policies poured gasoline on.

I suppose next you’re going to tell me he personally flew a plane into the World Trade Center.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117311 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 7:58 am to
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Imagine googling another man to prove a point.


So, a proctologist
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38589 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 9:36 am to
Why does anyone concern themselves with this guy. He's underwater to Mike Rogers by at least 5 points and Roger's hasn't even really started campaigning against him
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5987 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:48 am to
Seems simple enough to me? Can he perform an Appendectomy or a Tonsilectomy? You know basic surgery? Can he diagnose my grandchild's Strep Throat Infection and prescribe medication to cure the infection? And would a pharmacist fill a prescription he received from El-Sayed?

Lord knows we've got enough people today presenting themselves as fake professionals. Some of'um even run fake Medicaid clinics, and scream "racism" when they're caught redhanded.



This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 10:53 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60344 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 10:49 am to
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make billionaires pay more,


How? Be specific, bubba.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12479 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:03 am to
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A reasonable person would think a physician is a doctor who practices.

This thread title doesn’t say he’s not a physician. It says “not a real doctor.” Words matter.
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So according to Michigan, he is not.

According to Michigan, he may not be a physician. Again, words matter.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12479 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:06 am to
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Can he perform an Appendectomy or a Tonsilectomy? You know basic surgery?

Ok so this only applies to a very small subset of physicians.
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Can he diagnose my grandchild's Strep Throat Infection and prescribe medication to cure the infection?

Ok so pediatricians are real doctors—we agree.

Is this your extensive list?
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5987 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:29 am to
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Is this your extensive list?


I'm just listing what I believe should be the capabilities of a doctor physician. Someone I believe has spent years studying methods and techniques of surgery and spent time in residency perfecting his profession not to mention the thousands of dollars spent to reach their goal.

When you people argue for the validity of an Abdul El-Sayed (an Islamo-Marxist) by hanging a "doctor" designation on him, I see it as an attempt to cheapen the profession practiced by "real" doctors. An indication of a D.E.I. Woke mindset perhaps?

I once had an Oncologist Cancer Specialist save my life by removing a cancerous growth in my body. I have immense respect for these medical professionals. Apparently you don't

Have a great day heathen.

This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 11:34 am
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5087 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 11:48 am to
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How? Be specific, bubba.


Sure, bubba. Raise the top marginal income-tax rate on extremely high incomes, tax capital gains more like ordinary income for the ultra-wealthy, close the carried-interest loophole, strengthen the estate tax at very high wealth levels, and stop letting billionaires use appreciated assets to borrow, spend, and pass fortunes along while minimizing taxable income. You asked how. There’s how. Now tell me which part you object to.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42291 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:01 pm to
It’s very misleading to call him a doctor. If you can’t go through residency, you are a doctor in degree only.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
60344 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:09 pm to
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Raise the top marginal income-tax rate on extremely high incomes,


Define extremely high income.

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tax capital gains more like ordinary income for the ultra-wealthy,


Define ultra-wealthy and how would that valuation be made for closely held entities?

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close the carried-interest loophole


Not necessarily against this.

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strengthen the estate tax at very high wealth levels

Outside of lowering the lifetime exemption, how would you “strengthen” the estate tax?

Additionally, why do you think dying should be a taxable event.


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and stop letting billionaires use appreciated assets to borrow, spend, and pass fortunes along while minimizing taxable income. You asked how.


You want to create a law limiting what wealthy people and banks can contract to? And how do they pass fortunes along while minimizing income tax? Anything includibke in the estate is subject to a 40 percent tax.


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You asked how. There’s how. Now tell me which part you object to.


See above. You are spewing trite buzz words and don’t know how to define them or how practical they are. For instance. You have no clue what would go into any ally determining the value of closely held companies. Negotiating a 706 can take years. And you want that to happen annually…

You don’t know what you don’t know, bubba. Keep posting with hubris from your place of complete ignorance.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 12:11 pm
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
5087 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:22 pm to
Easy there, Professor. You’ve been carrying the word “trite” around lately like a kid who just got his first pocketknife. We’ve all seen it. You can put it back in your pocket now.

You also managed to build yourself a nice little straw man.

I said tax realized capital gains more like ordinary income for people at the very top. Pick a threshold if you need one: $1 million in annual taxable income. “Ultra wealthy”? $100 million plus net worth works fine for the discussion. Neither statement requires the government to perform an annual valuation of every closely held business in America. I never proposed that. You did, on my behalf, because it gave you something easier to argue against.

And no, changing the tax consequences of borrowing against appreciated assets does not require Congress to “limit what wealthy people and banks can contract to.” Banks can make loans. Wealthy people can take them. Congress writes tax law governing what gets taxed, deducted, recognized and transferred every damn year.

Then there’s this beauty:

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Anything includible in the estate is subject to a 40 percent tax.


No, bubba. In 2026 the federal estate-tax exclusion is $15 million per individual. The 40 percent figure is the top estate-tax rate, not a tax slapped on “anything includible” in an estate. And the reason passing appreciated fortunes matters is that inherited assets generally receive a basis based on their fair market value at death, potentially wiping out income tax liability on appreciation that accrued during the decedent’s lifetime. That’s the part of the tax code I was talking about.

As for “why should dying be taxable?” Dying isn’t taxed. The transfer of an enormous fortune is. We tax transfers and transactions all over the economy. Whether that particular transfer should be taxed, and at what threshold, is a perfectly legitimate policy argument. Pretending the government is sending a tax bill to a corpse is just the usual maga bumper sticker rhetoric, it ain’t analysis bubba.

Also, notice how this conversation works.

You ask me to define every noun, choose every threshold, write the legislation, solve valuation questions and defend hypothetical provisions I never proposed. Meanwhile, you haven’t put your own cards on the table.

So enough of the little law-school cross examination baw.

What tax rate do you think someone making $10 million a year should pay? What should the estate tax exemption be? Should inherited appreciation escape capital gains taxation through stepped up basis? Should carried interest continue receiving preferential treatment?

Give us your numbers and your policy bubba.

You’re sittin in the cheap seats yelling “DEFINE IT!” at everybody else is just yur usual porch gnat nitwit shtick.

And, if we’re reaching for the word of the week, it’s getting a little trite bubba.
This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12042 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:29 pm to
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I think he’s a good dude. He wants to stop the trump/israel endless war racket, make billionaires pay more, and reverse the upward flow of wealth that Trump’s policies poured gasoline on.

I suppose next you’re going to tell me he personally flew a plane into the World Trade Center.


He supported those who did fly planes into the WTC. He can say or promise anything but that's not his true intent. Do you support sharia law?





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This post was edited on 8/15/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
7005 posts
Posted on 8/15/26 at 12:58 pm to
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I truly hate to say it, but he is a doctor.



true, but then again, so is Fauci
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