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re: ABC: Ukraine Agrees to Terms of US Peace Deal

Posted on 11/26/25 at 5:38 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 5:38 am to
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The bloodbath will carry one. Truly a war of attrition. What a waste


I have yet to see any reports that the Ukrainians have agreed to any territorial concessions. How is this plan supposed to work without that?

I hope I'm wrong, but this seems like more free beer tomorrow talk.
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4718 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 5:44 am to
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Money laundering is swept under the rug and Zelensky & Co get to keep the ill gotten stolen wealth as part of the peace deal


I thought that this is a beautiful touch to the whole thing. Have Zelensky take the money and run. It's too much for him to turn down.

But the Euros are all just left with no one to poke into more war.
Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
991 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 6:54 am to
Who cares? Russia is not. I like Trump, but he's looking bad here. Either we are involved or not (Not this half arse stuff). If in, give them tomahawks or do something serious to make Russia agree or get what they deserve (Putin mostly)!
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:16 am to
Don’t see any headlines about this
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28580 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Don’t see any headlines about this

The Russians don’t want peace.

It’s always been the Russians (a/k/a “the invaders”).
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
19945 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Don’t see any headlines about this


It's not real. ...again
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
1306 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:34 am to
Unpin this bullshite
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27189 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:00 am to
Agree. This is a bunch of much to do about nothing.

Russia is not going to give up territory in the Donbas region unless they lose a nuclear war. We have no information on what the nuts and bolts of this "agreement" are. I guess I should say we have very little information.

Nothing Zelensky has proposed or accept up until now has ever been withing the world of sanity. If he agreed I would guess that they terms or ridiculous.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68825 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:11 am to
Actually, it is true that Putin isn’t interested in peace. He’s interested in victory.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45565 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:51 am to
Has Russia commented on the proposal yet?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:42 am to
The US can't stop Russia in Ukraine...short of ww3.

Russia warned everyone for 25 years that Ukraine was a red line.

We filled it with CIA and made it more powerful than the European NATO countries.

Then, when they were on the verge of negogiating peace in 2022, the Brits, who.couldnt field an army of 50000 in Ukraine if their life depended on it, killed the deal, with our blessings.

This was all a big, dumb mistake. It needs to go away. Ukraine can come to terms or lose their country. Thats all that needs to be decided.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 11:52 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 12:00 pm to
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Ukraine can come to terms or lose their country.


I thought this is where we were when Trump spanked Z in the oval office. I wish we had washed our hands then.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6793 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 12:23 pm to
Warhawk pressure. Trump is willing to watch Ukraine get slowly dismembered if necessary.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Warhawk pressure. Trump is willing to watch Ukraine get slowly dismembered if necessary.


Seems so.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75382 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 2:20 pm to
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I thought this is where we were when Trump spanked Z in the oval office.


It was JD who did the spanking, Trump tried to get the room back on track. I don't know why they didn't sign the shite before the press conference. This could have been over long ago.

JD seemed to be more interested in spiking the football than scoring the touchdown first.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 2:34 pm to
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It was JD who did the spanking, Trump tried to get the room back on track. I don't know why they didn't sign the shite before the press conference. This could have been over long ago.


Good point
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
7726 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:10 pm to
Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134919 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Has Russia commented on the proposal yet?

Yes. "No."

quote:

The Russian Foreign Ministry stated there can be no talk of concessions or backing down from key objectives in the so-called "special military operation." A clear signal that Moscow isn't planning to shift its course anytime soon.
X - 11/26/25

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45565 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:27 pm to
Well if Russia is not going to consider a deal that gives them 95% of their demands then Trump has no reason to not sell tomahawks to Ukraine and tariff any nation that trades with Russia.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134919 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:49 pm to
Agreed.
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