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re: ABC News with a gotcha: Recording appears to capture Trump talking about firing ambassador

Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:23 pm to
Interesting that Trump is telling Zelensky that Lutsenko was very good. But yet he was part of the corrupt govt that Zelensky replaced. Wonder what Zelensky thought of that...
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140570 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Trump is telling Zelensky that Lutsenko was very good.


Prog tells lie. Prog repeats lie.

TDS is a helluva thing.

You progs are such hypocrites. Can you see that? You claim words have meanings then twist things to your pleasure all because of TDS. Get help. It’s pathetic.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19557 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:35 pm to
They've really got him this time!
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1609 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:42 pm to
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But it should be troubling that he tried to fire her based on the word of some random donors that he claims he doesn't know.


Or- he fired her because he was told by Zelensky & the SP that she was refusing to provide visas to Ukrainian officials who were trying to get investigational evidence to US law enforcement agencies. Not to mention, she was bad mouthing Trump to Ukrainian embassy officials, she’d been requesting that State Dept officials “monitor” Trump associates, etc.

Trump could’ve fired her on the word of Lev Parnas or just for being ugly af if he so wanted to. She works at the behest of the President. Not the other way around, as Democrats seem to think. As it turned out though, he had PLENTY of reasons to fully terminate her. And he didn’t- she was reassigned elsewhere for the time being. She should consider herself lucky.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:45 pm to
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TDS is a helluva thing.


I am going to be very disappointed if Trump doesn't open the camps after getting reelected in November... Very disappointed...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:48 pm to
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I am going to be very disappointed if Trump doesn't open the camps after getting reelected in November... Very disappointed...


The camps are open and running. Toddy has already been converted. Didn't you see his post a few weeks back?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111549 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:49 pm to
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her well documented anti-corruption work there was in his way.


Her anti-corruption work is not well documented because there isn’t any. You’ve never heard of her. You know nothing of her except for what you’ve been told to believe by sources that believe the same as you. Drop the bullshite. Start questioning things. Grow up.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 1:51 pm to
I don't see the issue. If he wants to fire someone, he can do so.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

quote:
Trump is telling Zelensky that Lutsenko was very good.


Prog tells lie. Prog repeats lie.

TDS is a helluva thing.

You progs are such hypocrites. Can you see that? You claim words have meanings then twist things to your pleasure all because of TDS. Get help. It’s pathetic.


“The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very·good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your Very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved.”

That’s directly from the transcript. How did you interpret it differently?
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1653 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:37 pm to
Are you sure he was referring to Lutsenko? Are you sure he wasn’t referring to Shokin? You know, the guy who was fired in March 2016 for supposedly, according to Biden himself, not prosecuting corruption cases? I’m sure that had nothing to do with those pesky emails from February 2016 that Burisma wrote to the state department regarding them being investigated by Shokin, and reminding the State department Hunter Biden is on their Board, right? I’m sure that was all a coincidence, but you knew all of that, right?

I think you’re making a lot of assumptions on things you are not informed enough on
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6706 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:38 pm to
He clearly meant to murder her!
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
2405 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:41 pm to
She should have been fired on day one along with hundreds of other rats in the State Department.
Posted by MsHoghunter
Member since Oct 2017
2405 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:43 pm to
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He clearly meant to murder her!


He's really bad at playing the role of a murderous dictator.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:43 pm to
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In the recording Parnas and Fruman tell Trump that she is bad mouthing Trump. Trump immediately turns towards his staffer and directs him to fire her.


And?

We gonna impeach for legal firings now?
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
6706 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 2:50 pm to
lol just like the recording of Trump using the N word and being racist.....that are yet to appear.


Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28079 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:03 pm to
Ambassadors are NO ONES

They can be fired immediately by a President. Obama nearly fired all of W's hires.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140570 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:04 pm to
Quote where he claimed the dude was great.

You have to shed some of the TDS at some point.

Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:21 pm to
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Are you sure he was referring to Lutsenko? Are you sure he wasn’t referring to Shokin? You know, the guy who was fired in March 2016 for supposedly, according to Biden himself, not prosecuting corruption cases? I’m sure that had nothing to do with those pesky emails from February 2016 that Burisma wrote to the state department regarding them being investigated by Shokin, and reminding the State department Hunter Biden is on their Board, right? I’m sure that was all a coincidence, but you knew all of that, right?

I think you’re making a lot of assumptions on things you are not informed enough on


Ah, good point. I had Shokin and Lutsenko confused. But it seems that Lutsenko was shut down also. I had read that Lutsenko was appointed Prosecutor General in 2016 despite having no legal training. And Lutsenko was the point man in communication with Giuliani. It was Lutsenko had pushed to get rid of Ambassador Yovanovitch, but had frustrated Giuliani when he failed to announce an investigation into Burisma. So it’s my understanding that’s what led to Trump mentioning the investigation to Zelensky in the call.

That’s why I had him in mind. So thank you for the info.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35413 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:23 pm to
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quote:

Trump is telling Zelensky that Lutsenko was very good.
Prog tells lie. Prog repeats lie.

What part of that was a lie? None of it.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 3:24 pm
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