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re: ABC News with a gotcha: Recording appears to capture Trump talking about firing ambassador

Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:24 pm to
The transcript clearly says “very good”
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35389 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:25 pm to
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And?

We gonna impeach for legal firings now?
No. He is being impeached for his extortion scheme and coverup.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:27 pm to
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He is being impeached for his extortion scheme and coverup


*was. He was impeached.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:27 pm to
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No. He is being impeached for his extortion scheme and coverup.


Really?

I thought it was "abuse of power" and "obstruction of Congress"?

Why is there not an article for extortion?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140349 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:28 pm to
Sure does.

Why did you use great? Why did you leave off the I’ve heard part?

Because you have a need to lie? Words have meaning and nuance are prog staples, no?

Like I said, prog tells lie, prog repeats lie. TDS is a helluva thing.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:32 pm to
I didn’t. I said very good
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

I thought it was "abuse of power" and "obstruction of Congress"?

They change it according to what sounds best at the time.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:42 pm to
The repubs will dismantle all the dems made up taking points by showing the un-edited versions of actual videos and recordings
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18840 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:43 pm to
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Wonder what Zelensky thought of that...
Dunno! Maybe there is a recording ....

Ya'll got heeem THIS time !!!
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1645 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 3:59 pm to
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So it’s my understanding that’s what led to Trump mentioning the investigation to Zelensky in the call


But you don’t know. You’re speculating. That’s the issue with all this. The hoops you are willing to jump through and the logical leaps you are willing to take to get to Trump are clear. Yet whenever we have:

Ukraine Prosecutor Office opens investigation into Burisma -> PO starts requesting documents and bank records -> Burisma emails the State Department about investigation, even name drops Hunter Biden as being on BOS -> 1 month later Joe Biden makes call to Ukraine threatening to withhold funding if a prosecutor isn’t fired -> Shokin gets fired from position and replaced by Lutsenko, who is extremely unqualified for the position and doesn’t even have a law degree, but Biden refers to as “solid.”

Nothing to see there. Can’t make any connections that there was something shady going on. Nope, anyone who wants to look into that is a conspiracy theorist.

It’s all just so maddening that you are willing to ignore the elephant in the room to try and shine a light on the mouse.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:05 pm to
Good God, you’re selective summary is leaving out a ton of information.

You’ve got your mouses and elephants all mixed up
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:06 pm to
They got him.

He said “fire her” a year and half before she was fired. :green guy emote:
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140349 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:06 pm to
I owe you an apology. The other prog said great. Not you.

You did leave off the I heard part and that is relative.

I heard he was very good is different than he is very good.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:15 pm to
No worries. Simple mistake. But I think we’re splitting hairs here.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50270 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:18 pm to
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No. He is being impeached for his extortion scheme and coverup.


LOL

So now we just make shite up out of thin air?

The day you sick fricks get power back will be scary.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140349 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:22 pm to
Nuance, right. It seems to matter to progs until it doesn’t.

Can you see that?
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:30 pm to
I see it as a 2 way street. Trump’s words can’t be taken literally, until they can only be taken literally....
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140349 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:33 pm to
So nuance.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:36 pm to
Yes, it’s frustrating to have to have the nuance of a what Trump “meant to say” explained
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1645 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 4:38 pm to
Here is what Biden said happened When he was in Kiev.

quote:

“I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee,” Mr. Biden said. “I had gotten,” he added, “a commitment from [President] Poroshenko and from [Prime Minister] Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t. So they said they had — they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to — or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘you have no authority. You’re not the president.’” “The president said — I said, call him,” Mr. Biden replied, evoking, the CFR transcript notes, laughter. “I said, ‘I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars.’ I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in,’ I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. [Laughter.] He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.”


That “solid” someone was Lutsenko, who had no qualifications and already gone to prison years earlier for fraud. You are upset about this vague Lutsenko and Parnas connection because of the character of Lutsenko. But you got your prosecutors confused at first and were upset that Trump said he had heard Lutsenko was a good guy. Now that you know you got your facts mixed up, does it bother you that Biden praised Lutsenko amd called him a solid guy after he got Shokin removed?
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