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re: ABC News has new details on narcoboat strike.

Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:04 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:04 am to
Everybody listen.

Bunk Moreland is taking a strong moral stance against the actions of the Trump Administration.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:23 am to
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:23 am to
Lies from Mickey Mouse or Goofy.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:24 am to
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They would be lucky if it was a war crime. We're not at war. It's just traditional murder.


you are such an idiot.
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:28 am to
you seem tired of due processing
Posted by BHTiger
Charleston
Member since Dec 2017
9253 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:35 am to
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I’m sorry but this is ridiculous.

“Trying to get back into the fight”…what fight? Who were the drug runners firing on?

Of course someone blown into the water was trying to get back onto the boat. They were in the fricking water.


Do you understand why they were deemed a terrorist organization?

DRUGS....and yes if they were calling to have the drugs picked up the fight was still on.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:35 am to
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I’m sorry but this is ridiculous.


It's a little bit ridiculous, but that phrasing probably makes it legal. They should have just focused on the boat not being destroyed yet, that would have been safer in my ignorant non-JAG opinion.

This issue is as old as modern combat (I don't think the ancients gave a shite about executing prisoners). When is the action officially over and you suddenly flip the switch from "eliminate the threat" to "now we're police arresting prisoners"? That's not an easy switch to flip in the heat of things.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68374 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:38 am to
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The Pentagon’s defense of its actions rests heavily on the premise that there was a “fight” in the first place. In defending the campaign of summary killings at sea as lawful, the administration has relied on Mr. Trump’s disputed determination that the United States is in a formal armed conflict with drug cartels and that people suspected of smuggling drugs for them are “combatants.”

A still-secret memo by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel accepts Mr. Trump’s claims about the nature of drug cartels and that there is an armed conflict. Based on that premise, it concludes that the boat strikes are lawful.

One of its key related conclusions, according to people who have read it, is that suspected cargos of drugs aboard boats are lawful military targets because cartels could otherwise sell them and use the profits to buy military equipment to sustain their alleged war efforts.

The Pentagon’s emphasis on the purported radio communications appears to rely on that logic. The idea appears to be that without a second strike, another boat could have come to retrieve not only the survivors but also any of the alleged shipment of cocaine that the first blast did not burn up, so calling for help was a hostile act.

A broad range of legal experts reject the legitimacy of Mr. Trump’s claim that this is an armed conflict. They say that there is no armed conflict, that crews of boats suspected of smuggling drugs are civilians, not combatants, and that Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth have been giving illegal orders to commit murder.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 7:40 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24001 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:39 am to
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They keep doing these ops because they work on the remedial & the TDS

Obviously there are subversives in the military who will leak like a sieve until they get Hegseth and then Trump.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115400 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:42 am to
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quote:
ABC’s Martha Raddatz


Stopped there


Normally, I would also. But she's actually scuttling the BS "double tap" narrative.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11786 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:42 am to
None of you would give a flying frick if it was anyone other than Trump in office.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98033 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:44 am to
You have now joined the fake news media fight


Congrats on your transition to beta
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:48 am to
quote:

A broad range of legal experts reject the legitimacy of Mr. Trump’s claim that this is an armed conflict. They say that there is no armed conflict, that crews of boats suspected of smuggling drugs are civilians, not combatants, and that Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth have been giving illegal orders to commit murder.


There are a swarm of legal experts that disagree.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:50 am to
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A broad range of legal experts


Oh no!! The NYT and a broad range of legal experts disagree!! not a very compelling argument bunk.

Who has the power to declare who is considered a terrorist by the US? What do the broad range of legal experts say?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115400 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:52 am to
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None of you would give a flying frick if it was anyone other than Trump in office.


In point of fact, they didn't. See, Obama and Clinton (and GWB for a while, until it became fashionable to hate him again after 2002).
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33491 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:53 am to
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Obviously there are subversives in the military who will leak like a sieve until they get Hegseth and then Trump.



You have to turn the water on to locate a leak

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 7:56 am to
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The Pentagon’s defense of its actions rests heavily on the premise that there was a “fight” in the first place.


Thanks, Bunk for the link. The reporting provides enough cover for the operations generally and the killing of the survivors specifically.

While some might disagree with the President's call. It is his to make, and there is no mechanism for challenging that call.
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
926 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:18 am to
You had me at ABC…sourced, Martha Radditz…
No credibility…
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29594 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:21 am to
My great grandfather fought in WW II Midway, when they shot a ship full of Japs and they jumped in the water the Americans would just stop shooting incase someone in the fake media got their feelings hurt.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102701 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 8:23 am to
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They would be lucky if it was a war crime. We're not at war. It's just traditional murder.


The last time Congress declared war was in 1942.

So was every person killed in Korea, Vietnam, desert storm, Somalia, Middle East, etc since then traditional murder and soldiers following illegal orders?
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