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re: Abbott deployed TX National Guard to install more razor wire along the border

Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4128 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:32 am to
I grew up in South Texas, 50 miles from the border. Our property had "No Trespassing-Violators will be Prosecuted!" signs around the entire perimeter, this covered about 400+ acres.................so if these 'migrants', so to speak, come onto your property and you feel threatened or threaten you, and you have posted signs, do any of you feel it's time to defend yourself, your family, and your property?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:36 am to
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He talks shite about a good governor


You call it talking shite...I call it "holding accountable."

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talked shite about Trump as well.


See above.

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Abbott is at ground zero, Tucker has a nice little desk to talk shite from.


One is the elected official who's job it is to perform these duties. One is a journalist.

Should Tucker be handing out lawful orders to the Texas National Guard, installing razor wire himself, etc? What exactly is it you think he ought to be doing instead?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
41311 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:36 am to
Send some Texas Rangers to arrest Mayorkas and Garland
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:41 am to
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Our property had "No Trespassing-Violators will be Prosecuted!" signs around the entire perimeter, this covered about 400+ acres.................so if these 'migrants', so to speak, come onto your property and you feel threatened or threaten you, and you have posted signs, do any of you feel it's time to defend yourself, your family, and your property?
If would certainly be a criminal trespass under Tex.Penal.Code 30.05(a).

As far as taking the matter into your own hands to defend your property rather than just calling the police or sheriff, you could probably use "force" under Section 9.41, but not "deadly force" under Section 9.42.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:43 am
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
11307 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 9:45 am to
Abbott is doing everything he can, within the law at a federal border.

Tucker is doing everything he can behind a safe desk to have people watch or listen to him.

I expect Abbott to continue what he's doing.

I expect Tucker to talk shite behind his desk about politicians.
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 9:51 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25532 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:45 am to
Texas needs to up the pressure and rumblings of secession are not out of line imo as the fed has failed to uphold its constitutional responsibilities and in this case is actively undermining the union.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101717 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:47 am to
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fed has failed to uphold its constitutional responsibilities


And as the Arizona case shows, federal courts don’t allow a state to step up in the absence of action by the Feds.

So if the Feds are abdicating their responsibilities to the state, why should the state stay in the union?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70248 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:54 am to
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Until they start arresting the feds that are doing this, nothing changes.

They need to be arrested, brought before a local hanging judge, and held without bail for a trial in 2025.


THIS.
Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
1089 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 10:57 am to
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as the Arizona case shows, federal courts don’t allow a state to step up in the absence of action by the Feds.

So if the Feds are abdicating their responsibilities to the state, why should the state stay in the union?
Under the federal system set forth in the Constitution of 1789, Texas is simply not allowed to control international borders. It is part of foreign policy, and foreign policy is an area of exclusive federal jurisdiction/responsibility.

If the Feds are not fulfilling that role in a way that suits Texas, it is not unreasonable to ask whether Texas should remain a part of that federal system, especially since Texas bears a disproportionate share of the costs (monetary and otherwise) that arise from that failure.

About 40 years ago, I read a SciFi-type book about Texas seceding because it did not like how the Feds were dealing with foreign policy, there the USSR. The Ayes of Texas, by Daniel da Cruz
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:05 am
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
41179 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:05 am to
There are pages of Google results showing the Texas National Guars has been at the border.


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Couldnt abbot have just put the national guard at the border?


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“With the ending of Title 42 on Thursday, President Biden is laying down the welcome mat to people across the entire world, but Texas is deploying our new Texas Tactical Border Force,” said Governor Abbott. “The Texas National Guard is loading Blackhawk helicopters and C-130s and deploying specially trained soldiers for the Texas Tactical Border Force, who will be deployed to hotspots all along the border to help intercept and repel large groups of migrants trying to enter Texas illegally. The Texas Tactical Border Force will bolster our Operation Lone Star efforts to secure the Texas border amid the chaos caused by President Biden’s elimination of Title 42.”


May 8, 2023 |

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Texas taxpayers have spent $4.5 billion on Gov. Greg Abbott’s border crackdown initiative known as Operation Lone Star since it began in the spring of 2021, and lawmakers recently agreed to spend billions more in the next two years. One reason the operation is so expensive is the deployment of more than 5,000 National Guard troops to the border. Several have died by suicide after being uprooted from their jobs and families and posted at the border for months on end, and the Texas Military Department, which is in charge of the National Guard in the state, has struggled to ensure they’ve been adequately paid.


June 10, 2023
This post was edited on 9/21/23 at 11:06 am
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
70666 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:16 am to
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
26091 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:30 am to
frick every got damn thing about this POS president and every one associated with him.

Not only are they not stemming the wave of illegals, they’re actively undoing prevention put in place by the states to stop a foreign invasion.

TREASON!
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18898 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:34 am to
arrest them its the people of Texas state not the federal government States rights!

Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7094 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:42 am to
A warrant on biden would be awesome because then he cannot campaign in Texas although I doubt he leaves the basement
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30653 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:55 am to
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Until they start arresting the feds that are doing this, nothing changes.

frick that, start shooting. They are aiding in an invasion against a sovereign State of the USA. That’s treason.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11215 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:57 am to
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frick Tucker, he has a nice little desk to talk shite from.


Let us know when you give up your high paying job to fight for the country.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11215 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 11:58 am to
Start charging the federal government and withold federal taxes to pay for the bill. The feds will start squeeling. All they know is money.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44996 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Not only are they not stemming the wave of illegals, they’re actively undoing prevention put in place by the states to stop a foreign invasion.

Facts.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
33275 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Not only are they not stemming the wave of illegals, they’re actively undoing prevention put in place by the states to stop a foreign invasion.

If the GOP were serious about the border and not just pandering, they’d have impeached Mayorkas for the border issue already.

It’s an open and shut case of refusing to perform the duties of his office.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
35778 posts
Posted on 9/21/23 at 12:41 pm to
At least someone is standing up for border control.
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