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re: A social war pending?

Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:32 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39552 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:32 am to
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America will never be socialist. People will never give up their guns without a fight



And that is exactly why the Socialist Dems opened the Border and subsidized the importation of various violent and experienced ideological and religious warriors. They watched that Video that we debated of few years back "Why the Right will win the coming Civil War"...and they strategically addressed it. Guns do nothing more than to increase the intensity and carnage in a revolution/infrastructure collapse scenario. The Left is betting that the Right won't pull the trigger, albeit from the Transnational Progressive POV, the US Constitutional Republic has to go via "whatever it takes". A culling of the independent-minded genetic peoples fits right in with the narrative of De-population.

'Venezuela' by Thanksgiving.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10125 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:35 am to
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You aren't taking into account that if the military turns on its own people, it will be crippled by desertion


I certainly considered this, but I fear that desertion from the active ranks wouldn't be what we'd like to believe. A 10% desertion rate among active duty members of the military would, in my opinion, be extremely high. National Guard units would more than likely remain loyal to their respective states, but the funding isn't there for protracted, sustained actions.

Certainly there would be a contingent of trained military personnel who would support the Constitution over their superiors' orders, but how many, and where would their logistical lines of supply come from? Munitions, fuels, equipment, repair parts would all be in extremely short supply for those who do not have the reserves the federal government currently has.

Always expect and plan for the worst case scenario so you avoid unpleasant surprises and faltering morale.


eta: I know there are several members of our military (enlisted, NCO's, as well as company grade and field grade officers) who are a part of an unofficial group colloquially known as "Oath Keepers." But when the sh!t hits the fan, will their actions be in accordance with their "oath" or will they falter when they stare the dragon in the face? This is a real question of resolve and it's hard to gauge until you're actually staring into the abyss.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 8:51 am
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:06 am to
::fingers crossed::
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:07 am to
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Half the MAGA guys fly thinblue line flags


When the cops come for the guns it'll be


''Thank you for your service, I back the blue''.


Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33544 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:08 am to
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Easy to say when it's not happening. When your job is on the line and or life.
And therein lies the most important question these police officers will ask themselves.

“I need this job to provide for my family, but I’m likely to get killed doing this, so frick that.”

Just last week, a Lafayette PD SWAT officer was killed and a couple wounded in a shootout with a murder suspect in Jeanerette at a home.

Imagine this happening every day. The cops would quickly quit or refuse orders.


Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:27 am to
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Posters toss around “socialism” and “”marxism” inaccurately everyday.


Google socialism.

Google Marxism.

Now google fascism. And tell me what words are misused around here.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:30 am to
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extremely socialist.


Stop using words you don't understand.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55157 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:34 am to
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Then what?

Poverty and immiseration. But that's not the point, which is that real socialism is communism without the bizarre idea that the government will wither away.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22844 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:51 am to
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America will be a socialist country in 10 years.



It's more likely that the US doesn't exist at all in 10 years. Regardless of who wins, we're going to enter another 4 year term where absolutely nothing gets solved. Gov't inaction is going to catch up to us eventually and we're going on 20 years of it.

Spending is out of control, our economy barely even actually exists at this point, the deficit is increasing exponentially, we can't afford our own programs that pols refuse to reform, 80% of tangible spending ends up being kickbacks, etc. All of this while the only thing the gov't can agree on is endless funding of a war that means nothing to us, and has been over for like 3 years now.

They live for the 2-year term and it's going to kill us at some point
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22844 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:54 am to
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Stop using words you don't understand.



For what it's worth, the misuse of "socialism" in this context originated almost exclusively from the left. Idk why socialism is better sounding than welfarism to them, but they're the ones responsible.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 9:58 am to
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Raskin states, if trump wins he will be blocked on 1/6/25.


Dems are stupid...but not that stupid. They have demographics going forward, an army of willing academia, media, bureaucracy and brainwashed losers willing to cheat. If Trump wins, they will wage their daily information war, wait patiently and probably have a nauseatingly good chance with Gavin Newsome in 2028
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
9492 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:00 am to
BS ...... Not the way they envision it .....

Federalize Energy

Take and Federalize energy production as whole.

Nationalize all Medicine ....

Everyone with a job works for the government ......

Your points are garbage .....

Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7637 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:01 am to
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When the cops come for the guns

Unless "the cops" are on a suicide mission, this will never happen. They will be the first ones to tell the government to go frick themselves.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43418 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:08 am to
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A hot civil war is on the horizon. At this point, any arguable scenario appears to be a Morton's Fork. A digital WWIII has already begun and a cold civil war has been happening in the US since Hussein Soerto's second term. Won't honestly take much to make either go very hot, very quickly.

I kind of agree with you ... it's just that it may not be that close to the horizon.

It's going to happen, inevitably, because of the deep state and unelected fricktard bureaucrats taking over our everyday lives. But ... what will set it off, I dunno.

I suspect there will either be an assassination or a societal set-back event OR, even more likely, they'll do a no-knock kill attempt on the wrong door and it'll backfire on them.

Eventually, we the people will have had enough.

Won't be my generation or me. We may go down fighting but we won't be the ones triggering it. We're too old. It'll be a younger generation that suddenly realizes that they don't want to go through life being sheople people.
Posted by RoyalWe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
4874 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:30 am to
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''Thank you for your service, I back the blue''.
Nope. At that point they've gone to the other side and I pray they make that decision with eyes wide open.
Posted by whereishobson
Member since Dec 2012
641 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:33 am to
Don’t watch that crap. It was produced by Barry Hussein. Liberal propaganda is all that is.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19963 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:58 am to
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You aren't taking into account that if the military turns on its own people, it will be crippled by desertion. - split from within. By time we reach that boiling point, a number of states will have told the federal government to frick off and seceded. The National Guards of those respective states will be on the state's side. The fight won't be one sided, with only one side having a highly trained fighting force and the other side having a bunch of baws.

The biggest advantage the feds would have is WMDs, and will they be able to use them?


Great take.

Also, if they thought fighting in the streets of Iraq was scary and difficult imagine doing that in Houston or Dallas. There are SOOO many more guns on the streets in the US. Pretty much anyone can walk out of their job right now and find a firearm today if need be and use it.

Street fighting and kicking doors is not going to interest any soldier in any military. They would bail.

Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
14221 posts
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:23 am to
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Are we actually 6 months away from civil war?


As long as I'm able to afford vacations, I won't be on these streets taking a bullet for the rich folks.
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