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Posted on 8/7/24 at 3:20 am to Mephistopheles
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Socialism is when the workers own the means of production and distribution. Actual socialism would be nationalizing Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Apple and paying dividends to anyone who works there. Not a system where you have to work 40 hours a week to be able to have access to healthcare and university costs $100000 for 4 years
Will never happen.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:10 am to Swamp Angel
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Not to mention, many of us who are quite proficient with our firearms and are successful hunters are woefully unprepared to face a trained unit or four man team.
You aren't taking into account that if the military turns on its own people, it will be crippled by desertion. - split from within. By time we reach that boiling point, a number of states will have told the federal government to frick off and seceded. The National Guards of those respective states will be on the state's side. The fight won't be one sided, with only one side having a highly trained fighting force and the other side having a bunch of baws.
The biggest advantage the feds would have is WMDs, and will they be able to use them?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 4:47 am to Mephistopheles
quote:Which is hilarious on its face.
Socialism is when the workers own the means of production and distribution.
No business would ever be started. Guess they don’t understand that because none of the ones who want it have ever done anything productive in their lives.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 5:27 am to Jax-Tiger
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You aren't taking into account that if the military turns on its own people, it will be crippled by desertion. - split from within. By time we reach that boiling point, a number of states will have told the federal government to frick off and seceded. The National Guards of those respective states will be on the state's side. The fight won't be one sided, with only one side having a highly trained fighting force and the other side having a bunch of baws. The biggest advantage the feds would have is WMDs, and will they be able to use them?
Again, the civil war proves you wrong. I have military kids and interact with a lot of their friends on base, don’t underestimate how complete that military training is.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 5:34 am to buford4LSU
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People will never give up their guns without a fight
A socialist government only has to remove guns from citizens it fears will use them against said government.
That's not the case in America, despite all the tough talk and social media ranting so called patriots do.
Look around you. Your government is not afraid of you. They know you're heart is weak and it's only you mouth making all the noise.
Sure they'll slowly chip away at your right to keep and bear are but they won't outright take them from you. The don't need to because all the talk of civil war and 2A on the right is just that, talk.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:02 am to buford4LSU
The war has been going on for 40 years. We lost. That’s why this stuff is becoming so overt now. They can do it without worry.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 6:41 am
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:19 am to buford4LSU
Meh..... I 100% agree that unrest is coming here if we allow the progressive commies continue to destroy our nation, I'm just not sure when.... Americans are spoiled and generally unaware of the real facts, because many still drink the progressive commie propaganda of MSM. A couple of drastic changes that affects
peoples ability to access the internet, use their iPhones, the things important to present day Americana will get their attention. So would power outages and food shortages.
peoples ability to access the internet, use their iPhones, the things important to present day Americana will get their attention. So would power outages and food shortages.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:25 am to buford4LSU
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And now Raskin states, if trump wins he will be blocked on 1/6/25.
Sounds a bit…insurrectiony to me.
Hey, I don’t make the rules, Jamie.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:28 am to buford4LSU
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And now Raskin states, if trump wins he will be blocked on 1/6/25.
Hmmm, sounds a lot like a people who are a threat to democracy, doesn’t it?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:31 am to cwil1
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America will be a socialist country in 10 years.
North America will be small nation states before this happens. You’ll lose too much talent to emerging markets. Texas to Florida up to Tennessee will be the first shoe to drop.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 6:40 am to buford4LSU
You are right because "if" they can't rig the election they will tie Trump up in court for 4 years just like last time.
During his last presidency he had to spend as much time fighting impeachment and other BS than serving the people.
"Democrats spent $40,000,000 of YOUR tax dollars trying to impeach Trump,"
During his last presidency he had to spend as much time fighting impeachment and other BS than serving the people.
"Democrats spent $40,000,000 of YOUR tax dollars trying to impeach Trump,"
Posted on 8/7/24 at 7:03 am to Cajun Tigah
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Again, the civil war proves you wrong. I have military kids and interact with a lot of their friends on base, don’t underestimate how complete that military training is.
I have a son stationed in San Diego. I too, have interacted with many of his friends, and have lived with many current and retired military members in Jacksonville, for many years. They all took an oath to defend the Constitution, against enemies foreign AND domestic, not their commanding officer.
The Civil War saw many people switch sides. The existence of the Confederate Army shows that people will choose and switch sides. In today's world of instant communication, the number of people switching sides will be much higher.
By the time we get to a point where the military is going door to door, we will be in a Constitutional Crisis and many military folks will conflicted. Texas/Florida and other states will probably have seceded. There will be standoff between local police and the military in many areas, and although the military may have a firepower/training advantage, it will be bad optics for them.
Let me ask you this: If you and/or your neighbors were shot and killed during one of these house to house raids, would your kids continue to fight for the government that killed you? I know my son wouldn't.
You should read "Liberty's Last Stand" by Stephen Coonts. It's fiction, but he is ex-military and has a good understanding of the politics and relationships between the pentagon, politicians, and state governments. Forgetting about how the book ends, he paints a realistic picture of how it plays out when you have a federal government that decides to disarm its population and nobody backs down.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 7:08 am
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:08 am to RTM4
No but I do wonder what im gonna do if a fleet of armed enforcers come for my guns. I have 5 kids and a wife, if I have to choose then game over. Not letting my kids get blasted. The alternative to that is that I'm sure if kamala did her stupid EO to take the guns and Supreme Court didn't block it then we'd be forming armies far before they came to take them door to door. It's an impossible endeavor to begin w.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:10 am to buford4LSU
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America will never be socialist. People will never give up their guns without a fight
I dont think anyone realizes how many firearms are on the streets.
There has never been a civilization with this many firearms in the hands of its people, ever. 300mm+ people, vast countryside.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:12 am to buford4LSU
Americans isn’t going to be socialist, but guns have nothing to do with it.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:15 am to Jebadeb
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Do you understand what socialism is? Welfare, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps - all socialist programs
Ummm....no
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:18 am to Mephistopheles
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Actual socialism would be nationalizing Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Apple
That is not socialism. That is State Capitalism. You know, where the state owns all means of production and decides what you get. See USSR, Romania circa pre 1990's, N Korea and many other examples.
If that is what you want, you are stupid.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 8:24 am to Pikes Peak Tiger
Posters toss around “socialism” and “”marxism” inaccurately everyday.
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