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re: A sneak peek at what's left of Mosul after battle
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:32 am to SuperSaint
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:32 am to SuperSaint
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The Iraqi and Kurdish forces were fighting building to building where the isis fighters have had years to prepare booby traps and fortifications with tunnels and snipers. I think it was something like 5 car bombs a day on average.
Sounds like hell on earth!
God bless the brave forces that liberated that city.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:32 am to Mo Jeaux
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Maybe there won't be a "next group"?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:33 am to bamarep
No fricks given. That's war. If you want to conduct global terrorism and tolerate that kind of activity in your backyard then this is what happens to your home. Choose more wisely in the future.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:34 am to 225bred
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God bless the brave forces that liberated that city.
They're just godless, Muslim savages fighting over plot of water in a desert according to the sages in this thread. You shouldn't care about them. Let's ignore our nations involvement in the region too. Murca!
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:35 am to GumboPot
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Maybe there won't be a "next group"?
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I guess it is too much to ask that we stop creating power vacuums that lead to the rise of these groups.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:37 am to Mo Jeaux
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They're just godless, Muslim savages fighting over plot of water in a desert according to the sages in this thread. You shouldn't care about them. Let's ignore our nations involvement in the region too. Murca!
Instead of ad hominem why not explain the situation from your perspective? You'll never bring people to your point of view though ad hominem. Never.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:39 am to Mo Jeaux
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I guess it is too much to ask that we stop creating power vacuums that lead to the rise of these groups.
Aren't the Kurds moving in?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:42 am to GumboPot
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Instead of ad hominem why not explain the situation from your perspective? You'll never bring people to your point of view though ad hominem. Never.
My responses are commensurate with the posts to which I am responding. If someone is remaining willfully ignorant of American involvement in the Middle East over the past 15 years (let alone prior to that), I don't know what to say.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:44 am to GumboPot
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Aren't the Kurds moving in?
quote:Bombs first, plans later.
One challenge is the future of Mosul itself, a city traumatized by ISIS’ brutal rule and shattered by the latest U.S.-backed offensive, with thousands dead and nearly one million people displaced.
Western, Iraqi and Kurdish officials say they are astonished that Iraqi authorities neglected to prepare a post-battle plan for governance and security.
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The first indication of possible future conflict came when Masoud Barzani, president of Iraq's autonomous Kurdish region, announced a Sept. 25 referendum for an independent state.
Another omen was a push by Iran-backed Shi'ite militias, grouped under the government-run Hashid Shaabi, to deploy alongside Kurdish areas and advance towards the Syrian border, motivated by Iran's desire to join Iraq and Syria and establish a corridor from Tehran to Beirut.
"Today the highway of resistance starts in Tehran and reaches Mosul, Damascus and Beirut," Ali Akbar Velayati, the top adviser to Iran's Supreme Leader, said last week.
This post was edited on 7/10/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:02 am to Mo Jeaux
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My responses are commensurate with the posts to which I am responding. If someone is remaining willfully ignorant of American involvement in the Middle East over the past 15 years (let alone prior to that), I don't know what to say.
The good old standard, "I'm smarter than you is why." Followed by the, "I'm so much smarter than you that I can't even be bothered to waste my time explaining how smart I am."
Yes, we are aware the US has been involved heavily in the ME for 15 years. We'd like to get out. Kicking arse hard and leaving is the preferred means of action instead of trying to nation build.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:04 am to Pax Regis
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The good old standard, "I'm smarter than you is why." Followed by the, "I'm so much smarter than you that I can't even be bothered to waste my time explaining how smart I am."
Yes, if someone is willfully ignoring that history and chooses instead to blame this all on the "mooslims", then yes, I'm smarter than that person.
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Yes, we are aware the US has been involved heavily in the ME for 15 years. We'd like to get out. Kicking arse hard and leaving is the preferred means of action instead of trying to nation build.
Some of your fellow posters do not seem to be aware of such. Therefore, it would stand to reason that my posts may not have been directed at you. I'm sure that they're grateful for your support, however.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:07 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Where's the profit in that?
Maybe we should stop contributing to the destabilization of the Middle East?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:09 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:Yeah, we narcissistic Americans have an incredibly dumbed-down picture of the rest of the world. And somehow, we're proud of that.
Soooo...pretty much how I pictured Mosul BEFORE the battle!
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:10 am to Iosh
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Western, Iraqi and Kurdish officials say they are astonished that Iraqi authorities neglected to prepare a post-battle plan for governance and security.
"pass it first to see what's in it"
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:12 am to FalseProphet
quote:Somebody(s) going to end up with a lot of property real cheap. I wonder who that'll end up being?
So the linked article didn't have any pictures, but it did say that it would take billions of dollars in international aid to rebuild the city.
Why on earth earth would we even bother rebuilding it?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:17 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:They aren't. They're images of empire building.
If those are images of the religion of peace
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Just remember, they are the savages. We are civilized and cultured.
It's strange we still have wars in our advanced stages of development.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:25 am to bamarep
This is pretty much almost entirely our fault.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:26 am to TX Tiger
quote:how about you tel us who 'they' are since you are so enlightened?
I wonder who that'll end up being?
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:26 am to 225bred
quote:Yeah, take another look. It really looks "liberated" huh?
God bless the brave forces that liberated that city.
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