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re: A sneak peek at what's left of Mosul after battle

Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:27 am to
The violence of man is simply remarkable.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:27 am to
Can't wait for us to liberate the shite out of Iran
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:29 am to
Every once in awhile, I get genuinely depressed at the state of our world and how it probably won't ever change.

This is one of those times. So much injustice and violence.

The shroud of caustic sarcasm is the only protection from an overwhelming sense of hopelessness.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:32 am to
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Instead of ad hominem why not explain the situation from your perspective? You'll never bring people to your point of view though ad hominem. Never.
That is the problem isn't it. You have 24/7 propaganda fueling your side of the argument, so it's understood and no explanation is needed.

Anyone straying from that must provide a dissertation with every post or it is considered "trolling."

Great system you have there backing up your claims.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:32 am to
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The shroud of caustic sarcasm is the only protection from an overwhelming sense of hopelessness.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:33 am to
Something only true oldfags understand.
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1846 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:37 am to
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My responses are commensurate with the posts to which I am responding. If someone is remaining willfully ignorant of American involvement in the Middle East over the past 15 years (let alone prior to that), I don't know what to say.



First of all I understand the US has had a direct hand in turning the region upside down. Do you believe the US has created Islamic terrorism? I've had multiple people try to tell me the United States is directly responsible for Islamic terrorism. I usually ask them about Boko Haram in Nigeria, al-Shabab in Somalia, Jemaah Islamiyah (now ISIS) in Indonesia, Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines, Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement in China, etc...I mean the list goes on and on. In all regions of the world. Islamic terrorism was around way before the US stuck their nose in the ME. It may have poured fuel on it but let's not act like it these groups haven't been killing in the name of their god for years. Like thousands of years. They hate the West because of the ties and being allied to Israel. Islamic leaders wanted the US to invade Afganistan and Iraq. It was their excuse to rally Muslims worldwide to fight for Allah. After 9/11 you had the ISI and Iran harboring known al-Qaeda terrorist. You have Saudi and the Gulf states pouring millions into these groups. Then I usually hear "it's about economical and political gains. Religion is the excuse." I then tell them Islam has political, economical and religious aspects. It's their whole way of life. Islam is their law and their schooling. It has everything to do with Islam. Hell most of the countries that breed Islamic terrorist are "Islamic Republic of ...."
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:38 am to
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Yes, we are aware the US has been involved heavily in the ME for 15 years. We'd like to get out. Kicking arse hard and leaving is the preferred means of action instead of trying to nation build.
Are you not intelligent enough to figure out that kicking arse hard is what you do initially if you're trying to defeat an enemy, and kicking arse hard after 16 years is what you do to continue the agenda of "nation building?"
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:42 am to
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That is the problem isn't it. You have 24/7 propaganda fueling your side of the argument, so it's understood and no explanation is needed.

What sources do you get your information from? Please tell us specifically so we can be enlightened like you.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:42 am to
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Can't wait for us to liberate the shite out of Iran
.....and then North Korea......and then the next place on Earth where puppets go rogue and don't succumb to the Fascists who control this country.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:48 am to
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First of all I understand the US has had a direct hand in turning the region upside down. Do you believe the US has created Islamic terrorism?
I know of nobody who claims this. Not on this board, not IRL.

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I've had multiple people try to tell me the United States is directly responsible for Islamic terrorism.
Yuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between being directly responsible for it, and creating it. Do you not understand the difference?

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It may have poured fuel on it but let's not act like it these groups haven't been killing in the name of their god for years.
NOBODY is doing that.

Here's my question to you: if we know this is their history, why are we funding and training them?

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Islam is their law and their schooling. It has everything to do with Islam.
Of course it does. The establishment needs a boogeyman to keep Americans behind their agenda in the Middle East.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14811 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:52 am to
Looks like Beirut from the 80s...... or parts of Yugoslavia from the 90s....
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1846 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:57 am to
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I know of nobody who claims this. Not on this board, not IRL. 


You haven't been to reddit

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Yuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between being directly responsible for it, and creating it. Do you not understand the difference? 


Really? I mean really?

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NOBODY is doing that. 

Here's my question to you: if we know this is their history, why are we funding and training them? 


No one has ever killed in the name of Allah huh? Never...


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Of course it does. The establishment needs a boogeyman to keep Americans behind their agenda in the Middle East


Because the United States were around during the formation of Islam and their political, social, economical, and religious beliefs right.





Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:58 am to
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What sources do you get your information from? Please tell us specifically so we can be enlightened like you.
Do I need to provide a link to some source to show you government is corrupt or is that self evident?

Do I need to provide a link to some source to show you the media is nothing but fake news or is that self evident?

Life experience is my source. I have no magic link to the people I've spoken with over the years, nor can I provide a link to my experiences in life.

Oh, and I realize your post was simply a weak "gotcha" attempt.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Yuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between being directly responsible for it, and creating it. Do you not understand the difference?



Really? I mean really?

Yes, really. We didn't create Islam. We have, in fact, funded and trained these POS to terrorize places we need terrorized in order to further the establishment agenda of regime change in the Middle East. Islam is the boogeyman and it is and has been packaged and sold by the fake news and a corrupt government for the last 16 years (and still counting).

My question to you is, why do you continue to support such an agenda?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138923 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Life experience is my source. I have no magic link to the people I've spoken with over the years, nor can I provide a link to my experiences in life.

Oh, and I realize your post was simply a weak "gotcha" attempt.


Not 1 link?

You go all over the world and collect all this information first hand?

I can't believe you haven't been banned for trolling.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63689 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:08 pm to
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Do you believe the US has created Islamic terrorism?


No.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61440 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:15 pm to
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f those are images of the religion of peace
Cant really go that route here, somebody had to try to kill the bad guys.



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Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:17 pm to
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Soooo...pretty much how I pictured Mosul BEFORE the battle!


This
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 7/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Life experience is my source. I have no magic link to the people I've spoken with over the years, nor can I provide a link to my experiences in life.

Oh, and I realize your post was simply a weak "gotcha" attempt.


Not 1 link?

You go all over the world and collect all this information first hand?

I can't believe you haven't been banned for trolling.


I've played this game for 13 years with you folks. Any link I have ever provided was either ignored or discounted as a non "credible" source.

The irony is, you guys have already come to the realization that the MSM is fake news, yet any link that doesn't come from one of those sources, is considered "non credible."

So I've saved myself a lot of time and energy by not searching for links because they serve no purpose here. If what I say interests you, you might do your own research. But no, you want me banned because you're too lazy to look into things for yourself. I'm certainly not surprised.

I find it ironic that you want me banned, yet it is completely acceptable to post endless streams of links from fake news sources.

The bottom line is this: You don't like what I have to say, so you want me banned. My question to you is, why does what I say make you so angry?
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