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re: A Serious "What IF" Question
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:55 am to ConwayGamecock
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:55 am to ConwayGamecock
What if back in late January the news hadn’t called Trump racist for banning travel to/from China?
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Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:57 am to ConwayGamecock
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Lets say back in February - the first Index Case in the United States was around February 15th, and officially confirmed February 21st - The U.S. Government put a policy in place that was nation-wide, and strictly enforced to the level of a national martial law:
Okay, I'll bite, where is the U.S. allowed to implement there own designed charter i.e. martial law (what that really means is no law)?
We'll start with this part first. We could just skip to the end - everyone is going to get this virus, of course, we could eliminate all humans before all humans are infected - technically it is an option.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 8:00 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:58 am to ConwayGamecock
quote:Opinion only
For 3 straight weeks. Make it something like a nation-wide holiday or vacation. A Pandemic Vacation for everyone.
After those 3 weeks were up, how much impact would that have had on the spread of this COVID-19, or really the spread of ANY viral pandemic, like the influenza??? Would that have cut this COVID-19 to it's knees??
Serious question....
It would have delayed the inevitable by three weeks.
Would those three weeks have given medical professionals time to develop a better response to the eventual, full-blown outbreak? Hard to say.
You would also have needed the political will and intelligence to take that time and use it wisely, rather than downplaying the seriousness of the imminent outbreak.
Hindsight suggests that we would not have had that. The travel ban (a wise move) accomplished something similar, and there is little indication that the administration made good use of the time that IT provided.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 8:25 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:01 am to ConwayGamecock
quote:Yep. Hypothetical analysis tends to short-circuit lots of “brains” here.
OK, starting to realize that this forum is just not equipped to seriously deal with my premise
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:02 am to ConwayGamecock
You really are pitiful with your judgements in hindsight. Your hate for Trump is apparent and regardless of what he does correct you're going to cry about something.
How about this...
Hillary won the presidency. China is known to have an outbreak of a highly contagious novel coronavirus. She leaves travel to and from China untouched for three weeks into February. Would she have caused a 5-10 fold infection rate compared to what we have now?
How about this...
Hillary won the presidency. China is known to have an outbreak of a highly contagious novel coronavirus. She leaves travel to and from China untouched for three weeks into February. Would she have caused a 5-10 fold infection rate compared to what we have now?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:07 am to ConwayGamecock
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the first Index Case in the United States was around February 15th
Actually it was Jan. 20th.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:08 am to Homesick Tiger
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Actually it was Jan. 20th.
We're pretty convinced we had it in mid/late January, but no way of knowing without the AB test.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 8:09 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:11 am to ConwayGamecock
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OK, starting to realize that this forum is just not equipped to seriously deal with my premise, but what do you think Congress should have been doing otherwise?? Who has authorities over HHS, CDC, FDA, and FEMA, what obstructions did Congress put up against those agencies from doing their jobs, and what "fights" did Congress conduct against Trump regarding stopping flights from China?
The Trump Administration has consistently been seeking to cut funding for the CDC and global pandemic health measures since 2016, but Congress has the purse strings, and has rejected most all of those attempts, and kept the funding flowing. Is this what you're referring to???
You should look in the mirror when questioning whether or not your premise should even be taken seriously.
GTFO with the dumb martial law drill. There is not enough LEO to go around for your insanity.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:11 am to ConwayGamecock
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After those 3 weeks were up, how much impact would that have had on the spread of this COVID-19, or really the spread of ANY viral pandemic, like the influenza??? Would that have cut this COVID-19 to it's knees??
It absolutely would've brought this virus to it's knees. For three weeks.
And then you let things open and it starts to spread and then you shut things down. And viral transmission slows.
And then you think heck we got this now and open things up and it starts to spread again.
You understand we have two choices here, get people infected at a pace that doesn't overwhelm there system or vaccinate.
Now if a vaccine could come out quickly than we could slow things down a lot.
If even best case it's going to take six months, we can't shut things down for six months.
So we gotta get a decent amount infected at a rate that doesn't overwhelm the system.
So doing what you suggest isn't really an option.
Let me rephrase, it is an option, but not the best option...
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:29 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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still without a vaccine or proven treatment.
The treatment seems to be here unless you are willing to let bodies pile up waiting for the normal FDA approval process that takes years.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 8:36 am to AggieHank86
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Yep. Hypothetical analysis tends to short-circuit lots of “brains” here.
Why waste brain-power on a hypothetical analysis posted for the sole purpose of arguing OMB?
Go on...you and the OP can continue to call the rest of the board idiots. We have all figured out that you are the true and only self-confirmed genius in here.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 9:31 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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The treatment seems to be here unless you are willing to let bodies pile up waiting for the normal FDA approval process that takes years.
I have no idea what that means, the vast majority of people are going to get this virus, and its very possible significant parts of the population already have had it. Most of those bodies were going to be there one way or another very soon... last 1% of their cycle.
Let's get rid of the United States because a few people die, which were probably a few days, weeks or months away from dying anyway... and probably most couldn't even survive the flu.
Suggestion, please don't reproduce.
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 3/28/20 at 10:25 am to LSURulzSEC
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What if Congress was actually doing their job back in November and December instead of pursuing fake charges of obstruction in order to impeach Trump because all of their other attempts of the coup had failed, and paid attention to what was happening in China and take preemptive measures and not fight Trump’s policies on stopping flights from there?
You're blaming Congress for this?
Jesus Christ. Get a life.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 10:30 am to ConwayGamecock
Trump was already called a racist for a Travel Ban issued in January.
Had Trump taken these measures, the MSM and Democrats would have called him an Authoritarian.
Had Trump taken these measures, the MSM and Democrats would have called him an Authoritarian.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 10:38 am to ConwayGamecock
Are we wanting some level of infection?
Basically we need everyone to get it not all at one time?
Basically we need everyone to get it not all at one time?
Posted on 3/28/20 at 10:50 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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I have no idea
Very accurate part of your post.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:48 pm to BayouBlitz
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You're blaming Congress for this?
yes they are part to blame for dropping the ball here with that they were focused on at the time shite was starting to get real and they were warned of this, especially by Trump, if you can't see that then you need to get a hard fricking dose of reality shoved up your arse because its just a fact...period!
Jesus Christ...Get a fricking Life!
Posted on 3/28/20 at 2:50 pm to LSURulzSEC
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What if Congress was actually doing their job back in November and December instead of pursuing fake charges of obstruction in order to impeach Trump because all of their other attempts of the coup had failed, and paid attention to what was happening in China and take preemptive measures
That's what the CDC is for
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and not fight Trump’s policies on stopping flights from there?
You have a valid point there. There is no way they can defend that position at this point.
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:03 pm to Powerman
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That's what the CDC is for
The CDC can't do everything...they and our govt. needed to work hand in hand on this and that did not happen...
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