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A Serious "What IF" Question

Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:46 pm
Lets say back in February - the first Index Case in the United States was around February 15th, and officially confirmed February 21st - The U.S. Government put a policy in place that was nation-wide, and strictly enforced to the level of a national martial law:

That once we started getting the first 5-10 cases of COVID-19, that the nation shut down for three (3) straight weeks - no businesses except needed ones like groceries, hospitals. All other businesses, schools, etc. shut down.

For 3 straight weeks non-stop. Everyone required by law to do this. The law enforcement would arrest anyone who were shown to violate it.

For 3 straight weeks. Make it something like a nation-wide holiday or vacation. A Pandemic Vacation for everyone.

After those 3 weeks were up, how much impact would that have had on the spread of this COVID-19, or really the spread of ANY viral pandemic, like the influenza??? Would that have cut this COVID-19 to it's knees??

Serious question....
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
3963 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:50 pm to
Hind sight is 20/20 when your dealing with something novel, answer if it cuts it to it's knees in my opinion is probably not. But it would buy you a lot more time to get the testing developed to help better contain it
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:51 pm to
You do realize that prior to developing a vaccine, that ALL the testing does, is gives us an idea of where the virus is, so we can try to contain it by forcing those areas to stay at home, close down businesses in those areas, shutting those areas down.

Please refer to my OP post......
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77281 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

"What IF" Question


What if Congress was actually doing their job back in November and December instead of pursuing fake charges of obstruction in order to impeach Trump because all of their other attempts of the coup had failed, and paid attention to what was happening in China and take preemptive measures and not fight Trump’s policies on stopping flights from there?
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:53 pm
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Hind sight is 20/20 when your dealing with something novel, answer if it cuts it to it's knees in my opinion is probably not. But it would buy you a lot more time to get the testing developed to help better contain it


"answer if it cuts it to it's knees in my opinion is probably not". Probably "not" what?

Also, this wasn't the first novel viral outbreak the world has dealt with, and most likely will not be the last, so I question how much "hind sight" this thought process will be.....
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 10:55 pm
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:56 pm to
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Like South Korea did...


Still struggling to process any logic in your responses. If what I suggest in my OP actually happened, we would probably do more than South Korea ever did, regardless of whether or not tests exist at the time of doing it. At least for 3 weeks....
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
3963 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

that ALL the testing does, is gives us an idea of where the virus is, so we can try to contain it


Yeah, what a dumb strategy..
Posted by ClampClampington
Nebraska
Member since Jun 2017
3963 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

At least for 3 weeks....


Okay, in theory that might be effective, provided you don't let one person (US citizen or foreign) back into the country until the virus is dead worldwide. This first started in the US because a handful of carriers came back into the States
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

What if Congress was actually doing their job back in November and December instead of pursuing fake charges of obstruction in order to impeach Trump because all of their other attempts of the coup had failed, and paid attention to what was happening in China and take preemptive measures and not fight Trump’s policies on stopping flights from there?


OK, starting to realize that this forum is just not equipped to seriously deal with my premise, but what do you think Congress should have been doing otherwise?? Who has authorities over HHS, CDC, FDA, and FEMA, what obstructions did Congress put up against those agencies from doing their jobs, and what "fights" did Congress conduct against Trump regarding stopping flights from China?

The Trump Administration has consistently been seeking to cut funding for the CDC and global pandemic health measures since 2016, but Congress has the purse strings, and has rejected most all of those attempts, and kept the funding flowing. Is this what you're referring to???
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

Yeah, what a dumb strategy..


No....not at all. Was that all you were able to take from my comments?

A nation-wide shutdown for 3 weeks is in effect a nation-wide blanket containment of a possible pandemic spread. It is in effect a pre-emptive and far more effective variant to what measures testing provides. Which in the face of all of our issues with adequate testing, is pretty much the basis for my thread.....
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39545 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:10 pm to
Probably would be where we are now just a few weeks later and still without a vaccine or proven treatment.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69215 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:10 pm to
I do not support a nationwide shutdown.

I personally support a system where cities and states decide.

Dr. Birx said the other day that they have identified 19 states that won't have any heightened issues requiring shutdowns.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:39 pm to
freedom is more important than conformity.
Posted by SteepenTheCurve
Member since Mar 2020
52 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:40 pm to
We would have just delayed the spread of the virus three weeks.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111486 posts
Posted on 3/27/20 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

Would that have cut this COVID-19 to it's knees??


No.

quote:

We would have just delayed the spread of the virus three weeks.
This post was edited on 3/27/20 at 11:46 pm
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77281 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 12:50 am to
quote:

The Trump Administration has consistently been seeking to cut funding for the CDC and global pandemic health measures since 2016,


You might want to do yourself a favor and research the reports that have come out that Obama repeatedly sought to cut millions from the CDC during his terms and funding has actually increased under Trump...have a nice day...
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 12:52 am
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 1:08 am to
Some of you idiots act like we’re the size of the Uk or japan
This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 1:09 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162188 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 3:58 am to
quote:

I do not support a nationwide shutdown.

I personally support a system where cities and states decide.


That's essentially what we have is it not?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18518 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 4:32 am to
What if Trump didn’t have the foresight to shite off travel from China early on?
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
5678 posts
Posted on 3/28/20 at 7:53 am to
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no businesses except needed ones like groceries, hospitals
and the businesses who transport their goods, and the businesses who supply those goods, and the businesses that who supply them, and the businesses who supply them.

This post was edited on 3/28/20 at 7:53 am
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