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re: A Scientific dissent from Darwin
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:33 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:33 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Yup.
Exactly the point I was going to make. We can literally still see these societies.
Absent the combination of initial inventions coupled with cross pollination with other cultures, they basically look like you'd expect to have seen them 30,000 years ago. Maybe longer.
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Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:34 pm to Vecchio Cane
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amino acids actively seeking each other out
Now how do you go from there, to a complex creature like a butterfly, or a dog, or a human being? Now that takes a leap of faith.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:35 pm to Duke
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Conditions have to be right, and we have a limited range of planets to directly observe.
But you are only considering "life" as we know it and this environment that we live in. Which I understand, is all we can really study.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:36 pm to RobbBobb
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This is the biggest load of horseshite pushed in order to make evolution believable
Its not like bronze, iron, and steel just dropped out of the sky at certain periods in our history. We are expected to believe that man walked around for 200,000 years with a rock tied to a stick and that was the only tool he could conceive. That it took 250,000 years to even come up with a wheel?
You literally have to be retarded to believe that.
These people had literally NOTHING to distract them, and yet they sat around all day watching the wind blow. For 250,000 years?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:36 pm to Fun Bunch
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No scientist would talk that way about "Theory" with an upper case T, as if it was a guess.
My point is that it is a theory with scientific data to back it up to an extent. The theory has yet to be disproven.
My comment was directed at the scientists in the OP quote claiming it didn't have enough data to prove it was fact. That is why it is a theory and not a law.
Trust me, I believe in evolution as much as anybody. The problem people cannot seem to grasp with this debate including the supposed scientists signing this retarded petition is that we cannot replicate thousands of years of evolution, much less billions of years.
You aren't going to be able to disprove evolution.
Similarly, you can't prove God exists scientifically. so other than applying things that are unexplained as miracles of God as evidence (they aren't), intelligent design has nothing to back it up at all.
Point of order. I am a scientist and believe in God.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:37 pm to Lg
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:37 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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origin of life is the argument you run from, rather..
life did not pop into existence from nothing
Where did it come from then? How can something always exist?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:38 pm to Lg
quote:No. I'm considering life outside of what we know. That still doesn't mean the conditions don't have to be right and that the conditions would be common. Let's say there were 10 possible conditions under which life COULD arise. Just COULD.
But you are only considering "life" as we know it and this environment that we live in. Which I understand, is all we can really study.
And, let's say that those conditions are each available at a rate of 1 in a billion planets. They obviously STILL wouldn't be common.
The universe is fricking BIG!
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:41 pm to tarzana
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amino acids actively seeking each other out Now how do you go from there, to a complex creature like a butterfly, or a dog, or a human being?
different topic. We're talking origins of life.
Will anyone ever be able to create life?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:42 pm to ShortyRob
I want to put someone like RobbBobb in conditions like they would be 200K years ago and see how long he survives and how long it takes him to develop "technology".
Life for these people was short and harsh. They were in a constant struggle for their next meal, had no access to medicine or anything remotely resembling what we have today, and had significantly lower IQs due to a variety of reasons, most notably malnutrition.
It is quite simply ludicrous.
Life for these people was short and harsh. They were in a constant struggle for their next meal, had no access to medicine or anything remotely resembling what we have today, and had significantly lower IQs due to a variety of reasons, most notably malnutrition.
It is quite simply ludicrous.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:43 pm to Korkstand
[quote: for example Hippo ancestors turned into whales according to many macro evolutionists. They are supposedly part of the same evolutionary tree. How many new organs and adaptions are required to go from hippo to dolphin/whale?
Not many, relatively speaking.
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What evidence do we have for such a transition?
Why do whales have a pelvis and leg bones?)] quote:
According to these people it does not mean they have leg bones mutated from Hippos. SO I guess that prima facie evidence will no longer be in your repertoire.
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Not many, relatively speaking.
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What evidence do we have for such a transition?
Why do whales have a pelvis and leg bones?)] quote:
According to these people it does not mean they have leg bones mutated from Hippos. SO I guess that prima facie evidence will no longer be in your repertoire.
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This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:43 pm to Fun Bunch
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We just found water on Mars recently man.
Okay. And you would say Mars has been around as long as earth and yet, nothing? Water is supportive of life.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:44 pm to Fun Bunch
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Life for these people was short and harsh. They were in a constant struggle for their next meal, had no access to medicine or anything remotely resembling what we have today, and had significantly lower IQs due to a variety of reasons, most notably malnutrition.
Living to 30 years old was almost certainly a major accomplishment.
Hell living to adulthood was probably a fairly decent accomplishment
And unlike us they weren't largely free of predators roaming around in large numbers looking to eat their arse.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:44 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:
different topic. We're talking origins of life.
Will anyone ever be able to create life?
There's actually been some REALLY interesting advancements in that in recent years in controlled environments, ie creating amino acids from "nothing".
But its still all hypothesis really as to Abiogenesis.
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:46 pm to Lg
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Okay. And you would say Mars has been around as long as earth and yet, nothing? Water is supportive of life.
And?
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:46 pm to Lg
quote:
Okay. And you would say Mars has been around as long as earth and yet, nothing? Water is supportive of life.
I think you meant to type the words nothing yet. It ain't like we got a team of scientists up there digging in hundreds of places.
And again. Just because the conditions are right for the possibility of life doesn't mean that in every situation those conditions exist life will occur.
All of you people seem to talk about this shite like someone is claiming it should be common.
Of course that depends on your definition of common. I mean if one in a billion planets has life that would be pretty fricking common
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:47 pm to Geauxgurt
Can anyone point to actual proof that there has been evolution from one taxonomic class to another????
Evolution within family perhaps, genus and species levels can't be denied but I have never seen proof above the genus level.
I guess the Darwinist are going on faith above that.
I don't know nor do I profess to know the answers.
I wonder which is more likely---all life emerging and evolving from some single piece of matter into what it is today or a tornado hitting a junk yard and the resulting mess being a fully functional 747???
Evolution within family perhaps, genus and species levels can't be denied but I have never seen proof above the genus level.
I guess the Darwinist are going on faith above that.
I don't know nor do I profess to know the answers.
I wonder which is more likely---all life emerging and evolving from some single piece of matter into what it is today or a tornado hitting a junk yard and the resulting mess being a fully functional 747???
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:47 pm to Korkstand
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Nothing to distract them? frick, man, just surviving was a distraction. You think someone had the time to sit around and figure out how to make bronze when every waking hour was filled with trying to find and capture food?
More horsehit. They didn't have fruit and nut trees, roots, or berries back then? It took 250,000 years to overcome that?
I mean the bronze age only lasted 2,000 years. Iron age then only about 1,000. Yet for 250,000 years men sat around not even remotely interested in housing, farming, tool improvements?
That's certifiably insane
Tell me with your big brain, what a man did with 12-14 hours of daylight during the stone age? He and his social gathering DID NOTHING for 250,000 years to improve their status. 250,000 years?
bullshite
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:48 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
There's actually been some REALLY interesting advancements in that in recent years in controlled environments, ie creating amino acids from "nothing". But its still all hypothesis really as to Abiogenesis.
Which I'm fascinated with. Evolution is what it is, to me.
Abiogenesis is brand new ideas
Posted on 2/12/19 at 3:49 pm to I B Freeman
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Can anyone point to actual proof that there has been evolution from one taxonomic class to another????
Yes.
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