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Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:24 am to SDVTiger
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Dont start the I have always loved Trump when the winning starts again
I have repeatedly said that he needs to stick to his word in three weeks or lose my support. He may get his wall built this way and that would be great. I'd fully support using the shutdown and the SOTU to sell it.
I will not support using the military to enact a highly contested campaign promise
I'm allowed to criticize the president. He's not above criticism.
All of you blind lock step followers sicken me. You're literally no better than the dems who refused to criticize Obama. Stop sinking to the level of the left. Rise above that and be better.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:25 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:27 am to boosiebadazz
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Can’t wait until AOC’s political appointees at the EPA confirm that global warming is, in fact, a national emergency
I’ve seen this example. Let’s say it happens.
Walk it through in a practical manner. What does that mean practically?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:27 am to Nguyener
you weak arses always pull this melt. Never fails Just go vote for Beto bro
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:28 am to Nguyener
Declaring a national emergency to secure our borders does not violate the constitution.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:29 am to Nguyener
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It absolutely is. And it needs to be fixed. But the president using the military and a national emergency to carry out a campaign promise is a gross overreach and perversion of his power.
Again, I certainly see your point. But what do we do when in 3 weeks Pelosi and Co. don’t come to the table and we’re back in the same spot?
I’m not a fan of governance by fiat. However, the President’s main job is to be the Commander-in-Chief of our military. He (and I also) see a massive weak spot and gap in our defenses (border) and if he has to declare a national emergency in order to hem those defenses up, I say let him. I do not think that him declaring a national emergency for something that clearly is a national emergency is a bad thing. The military is for our national defense, we should be defending our lines. Who do you think would go to the border should we be actually attacked?
He’s been willing to do this legislatively but they are simply not willing to play ball. He’s got another option, I say use it.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:32 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:30 am to GumboPot
unilateral carbon tax and seizure of the funds of coal companies. It pretty much means whatever she wants. The powers granted are massive and wide-ranging.
You guys are thinking checkers, not chess on this one.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:30 am to Robin Masters
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A presidents term is 4 years.
But the mid-term elections were the most recent mandate from the People. You can’t say he gets to carry out his 2016 mandate with acknowledging that two years in, the electorate said “let’s rethink this.”
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:30 am to boosiebadazz
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Can’t wait until AOC’s political appointees at the EPA confirm that global warming is, in fact, a national emergency
And then use the military to shut down oil and gas and seize their assets.
Put in place a massive carbon tax. Use the military to collect.
Which creates a fuel national emergency.
And the use the military to distribute fuel and control highways.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:32 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:31 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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I’m not a fan of governance by fiat.
Good thing congress has already given the executive branch the authority to declare national emergencies.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:32 am to Revelator
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So the other 42 times a President declared a National Emergency to carry out his political agenda set no precedence but this will make us Nazis... got it
So you characterize declaring national emergencies for funding hurricane disasters in the same light as declaring a national emergency to build a border wall?
You sure that was just 42 Hurricanes.(it wasn't)
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:32 am to SDVTiger
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Dont start the I have always loved Trump when the winning starts again
I've never understood this sentiment. It's as if a person has no choice but to blindly support everything their guy wants. I thought only liberals did this?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:33 am to boosiebadazz
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unilateral carbon tax and seizure of the funds of coal companies.
Which would be unconstitutional.
Securing our border is not unconstitutional.
You see the difference?
Use the constitution and the law as your standard.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:34 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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But what do we do when in 3 weeks Pelosi and Co. don’t come to the table and we’re back in the same spot?
That's literally how our government works. You don't get to subvert that because you want to.
The people on the right saying Trump should declare a national emergency and use the military to circumvent congress opposition to his political platform is literally at stupid and dangerous as the people on the left calling for an end to the Electoral College.
This post was edited on 1/26/19 at 7:35 am
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:34 am to More&Les
Support for the wall equals low IQ
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:34 am to SDVTiger
I just don't get the whole muh precedent shite in 2019. The dems have proven time and again that they will do anything and everything to gain power and further their socialist agenda. Being principled won't mean shite when they officially tear the constitution to pieces and remove any chance of repairing it.
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:35 am to LSU Patrick
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Being principled won't mean shite
That's one hell of a dangerous proposition to support
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:36 am to LSU Patrick
Next thing you know, Trump will be ordering full on pre dawn raids on political opponents, I suppose?
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:37 am to Nguyener
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Why in the hell would you want to set the precedent for the next Dem president to use a national emergency and the military to carry out his political agenda?
Why the Hell do people hold on to the silly notion thatdemocrats care about "precedent"? They will do whatever they want and come up with a bullshite reason to justify.
Oh, let's wring our hands and don't do the nuclear option because we don't want the democrats to use it! - every fricking Republican circa 2002-to the time Harry Reid did anyway
Posted on 1/26/19 at 7:38 am to ynlvr
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What makes you think the Left will wait for precedent? BHO started with his pen and EO’s. FDR tried stacking the court, just as current 2020 Dem Presidential hopefuls are already suggesting. This fight has already begun and it didn’t start with Trump.
Ding ding ding
The Dems are mad Trump is fighting back
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