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re: A Question For Medical Experts Here; What Do You Think Caused the Spike in Autism?

Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Shreveporter
North End Zone
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 8:57 am to
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that led me to believe it might be genetic.


definitely a component. I'm a pediatrician, and I've cared for families with multiple children diagnosed with autism. That screams genetics.

I imagine in the future we will discover that this disorder is really comprised of multiple separate syndromes we are lumping together due to lack of understanding right now. Some will be heavily driven by genetics, some heavily by environmental insults, some by a combination of those things. And not all insults/exposures will affect people the same way, likely due to genes.

My dad's side of the family are heavy smokers. All of them. Dad started smoking when he was 14 and pretty much, if he's sitting down and NOT eating, he's smoking (sometimes even when he is eating). He's in his 70s and he doesn't have cancer. No one on his side has or had cancer. They all lived to be anywhere from 80-104 (great grandmother smoked from the time she was 10 and had to roll her own tobacco into a cigarette, died a month shy of her 105th birthday). This doesn't mean smoking isn't a cancer risk, it just didn't affect my family that way. Genetics.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
9432 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:04 am to
The 'scope' of autism widened. Dated a gal who was studying child psych and she explained it to me. Wasn't vaccines or anything like that. Just more characteristics became 'autism'.
Posted by Shreveporter
North End Zone
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:22 am to
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The 'scope' of autism widened


Agree, and this plays a part, but it's not only this. I see more moderate to severe autism in my clinic now than I did 20 years ago. I could go months without seeing a patient with moderate to severe autism in my resident clinics at LSU. Now, I can't go a week, and it's usually a few per week. I'm not even talking about the mildly autistic kids who are mostly just socially awkward and concrete. I'm just talking about the kids who will never be able to live on their own. That's anecdotal but it's been my experience after 26 years in pediatrics.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74163 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:32 am to
It's amazing. Everything bad for pharma is under reported. Why do they pay advertisers millions of dollars to advertise a product to the public they cannot buy?
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 9:33 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
15662 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:37 am to
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The 'scope' of autism widened. Dated a gal who was studying child psych and she explained it to me. Wasn't vaccines or anything like that. Just more characteristics became 'autism'.

This.

Many cases once considered borderline or marginal diagnosis began to be identified with a higher certainty of being autism.

The reason? I don’t know. It’s either parents pushing for a better explanation than not autism or a pharmaceutical push.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:45 am to
Just a perception game?
Wow.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13478 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:59 am to
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This is a big part of it. That, and every goddamn leftard under thirty claims to be "on the spectrum".


I saw a TikTok with a couple hundred thousands likes of someone having an "autism" reveal party like a gender reveal party where she read the results of her test. Was some mid-30 year old single white woman. The epidemic is the need of these people who have privileged lives to need something that makes them disadvantaged to satiate their white guilt.

There is also studies that suggest that autism is genetic, so as we diagnosis more and more people with it and they have children the odds are that their children have it go up so the amount of people diagnosed with it will go up.

The amount of junk we eat and breath, combined with the lack of proper prenatal care in lower income households (the ones that have higher amount of children ironically) probably play a part in it as well.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28238 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:02 am to
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You can’t report something if you can’t diagnose it.


Cuba raises their hand.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43093 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:13 am to
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I imagine in the future we will discover that this disorder is really comprised of multiple separate syndromes we are lumping together due to lack of understanding right now. Some will be heavily driven by genetics, some heavily by environmental insults, some by a combination of those things. And not all insults/exposures will affect people the same way, likely due to genes.


This is exactly where we are at right now. It seems that anyone that is neurodivergent falls under the autism umbrella because they can not define exactly what is causing it. There are a multitude of ways to help with the symptoms but finding which one can be a pain and expensive
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6767 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:19 am to
1. Denial
2. Underreported
3. Undiagnosed
4. Understanding
5. Severity

People with autism don’t all act the same.
-Raymond Babbitt from Rain Man
-Hank Hill from King of the Hill
-Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory
-Dwight Schrute from the Office
-Abed Nadir from Community
-Reed Richards(Mr Fantastic) Marvel Comics

In the past people would call someone retarded or say they are slow, but there is a good chance they were autistic. A character like Forrest Gump is not autistic he just has a very low IQ. Someone can act very similar to him, but actually be autistic.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2328 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:32 am to
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-Hank Hill from King of the Hill
-Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory
-Dwight Schrute from the Office
-Abed Nadir from Community


perfect example of over diagnosis
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11674 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:40 am to
My wife works for an autism clinic. She’s certified BCBA

They have no idea what causes autism….which tells you it’s big pharma.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13186 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:41 am to
Tylenol…
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23723 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:47 am to
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Not an expert, but I had always assumed it was because it was underreported.

I agree. It used to be that we all knew someone who was just a little weird or off. Not dangerous or mentally slow. Just a little awkward or something. Now, those types of people are getting diagnosed as being on the spectrum even though there's really no effect on them being able to live a normal life due to their "condition".

And as others have said, its a badge of honor for some of the kids or the parents of these kids. They want their kid to be "special" and want to be seen as a hero because they are raising a "special needs kid".
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4651 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:48 am to
“Everything bad for Pharma is under reported”

That’s why Pharma spends billions on advertising,it’s to control the media.
Networks don’t dare report anything bad about Pharma for fear of losing advertising dollars.
That’s why Fox fired Tucker Carlson.He started pushing back on the narrative about Covid and questioning the vaccines.
Pfizer gave Fox an ultimatum.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38463 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:59 am to
I think it has to be with the massive fall in "unselective breeding". That is to say, in the old says, Johnny married Julie since they were in the same town and their parents/friends knew each other. They didn't match up according to politics or even intelligence. It was much more of a community social type of dynamic.

Fast forward several decades, and now the class stratification for mating is extreme. It's basically the 2 "non-trashy" people at the beginning of Idiocracy. They are already slightly spectumy themselves - high IQs, neurosis, etc. Then they all go to the same schools, mate and create mini mes that are concentrated versions of the same shite.

TL;DR: spectrum traits used to be overwhelmed by mating diversity. Now, they are concentrated and passed on.
Posted by Wire Road 2
Member since Jul 2022
167 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 12:11 pm to
For those that think over diagnosis is the culprit, I’d say go volunteer with some kids’ groups and see what you think.

I’m not trying to besmirch them, but there’s a lot more peculiar kids these days. When I was a kid, there were maybe one or two in our whole grade. Now every class seems to have a handful of odd kids.

Some parents may seek out the diagnosis, but there’s more than that going on. And I can assure you there are a lot of parents dealing with troubled kids who would give anything to have their kid not have to deal with the symptoms.
Posted by CrimsonChaos
Member since Apr 2022
150 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 12:36 pm to
I do genetic testing so I can speak to part of it. Until VERY recently, genetic testing was too expensive for almost anyone to have access to it. Furthermore, the only way to determine if a variant is pathogenic or benign is to have a lot of data. So until about 15 years ago, we had little testing and little data. Now it's extremely affordable & most companies don't bill Medicaid patients. The better genetics labs submit their data to an international database that helps us to determine with greater precision if a variant is pathogenic. Chromosomal microarrays, neurodevelopmental panels, & whole exomes have given a diagnosis that just simple wasn't available not very long ago.

I will also add that the term autism is a very broad generalization that covers a plethora of neurodevelopmental disorders. As a kid of the 90's, I remember having the 'special ed' kids in my school. You didn't really know what was wrong with them , only that they were off. They got clumped together which in retrospect was a major disservice as we now have a better understanding of the disorder. Individual education plans specific to the child's defect can provide a world of positive change that we just didn't understand until recently. And quite honestly, we have a lot left to learn.

Are there environmental components? 100%. But the amount of genetic testing done now is astronomical compared to even just 10-15 years ago.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38463 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 12:41 pm to
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I’m not trying to besmirch them, but there’s a lot more peculiar kids these days. When I was a kid, there were maybe one or two in our whole grade. Now every class seems to have a handful of odd kids.
See my post right above yours.
Posted by Wire Road 2
Member since Jul 2022
167 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 4:18 pm to
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TL;DR: spectrum traits used to be overwhelmed by mating diversity. Now, they are concentrated and passed on.


May be some of that dynamic going on, but I think some of the effects of the sexual revolution (increased sexual encounters, abortions) may have impacted things in this category as well.
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