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re: A list of the 54 Texas Democrats who shot down citizen-only voting rights
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:38 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:38 pm to AggieHank86
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Why should legal, permanent residents be banned from voting in local elections by some “higher” governmental unit, if the majority of the local jurisdiction wants to let them do so?
88 yesses to 54 "totally here but I'm not willing to stick my neck out and actually vote no" votes says the majority isn't in your favor.
You are an unabashed lefty, I have no idea why you continue to pretend you're not. It's bizarre.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 6:39 pm
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:45 pm to AggieHank86
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Name one.
How about showing me an actual federal decision where a court ruled in favor of acknowledging us citizen for the birth of a child to a person illegally on U.S. soil
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:06 pm to dafif
quote:So, you got nothing. Figured as much.quote:How about showing me an actual federal decision where a court ruled in favor of acknowledging us citizen for the birth of a child to a person illegally on U.S. soil
Name one.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:08 pm to RazorBroncs
quote:It is the Texas Legislature.
88 yesses to 54 "totally here but I'm not willing to stick my neck out and actually vote no" votes says the majority isn't in your favor.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:10 pm to AggieHank86
Now that is an awful comment.....you are an idiot!
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:14 pm to oldskule
Suggesting that local people perhaps should decide who votes in their local elections, rather than some distant legislators. Awful, right?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:16 pm to AggieHank86
quote:You aren’t nearly as smart as you pretend to be. You even quoted this:
Y’all continue to make arguments applicable only to ILLEGAL residents. Not remotely the question that I presented.
quote:
If you allow the mass migration of people by the millions (and they will be given amensty to be permanent residents, at least) you can change the composition of the government very quickly and not for the better.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:17 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Nice way to dodge having make an argument of merit.
Not remotely the same. One is in the Constitution and the other is not.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:24 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:I quoted you talking about illegals to SHOW that YOU were talking about illegals, while I was discussing legal residents. Moron.
Y’all continue to make arguments applicable only to ILLEGAL residents. Not remotely the question that I presented.quote:If you allow the mass migration of people by the millions (and they will be given amensty to be permanent residents, at least) you can change the composition of the government very quickly and not for the better.
You even quoted this: quote:
Posted on 5/25/23 at 7:36 pm to AggieHank86
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Suggesting that local people perhaps should decide who votes in their local elections, rather than some distant legislators. Awful, right?
Local people are allowing non-citizens to vote. It disenfranchises American citizens.
That is something put forth by the left.
You support that goal.
Therefore, YOU support shitting on Americans.
This isn’t difficult.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:00 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:When a majority of those who hold the franchise voluntarily choose to SHARE the franchise with a broader group of people, you describe them as “disenfranchising” themselves? JFC
Local people … allowing non-citizens to vote … disenfranchises American citizens.
When men in Wyoming voluntarily voted to share the franchise with women in 1869, did they “disenfranchise” themselves? Was it wrong to do so? Did they “shite upon” themselves?
When Whites in New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania voluntarily voted to share the franchise with Blacks in the antebellum period, did they “disenfranchise” themselves? Was it wrong to do so? Did they “shite upon” themselves?
Stupid argument.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:56 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.
If you start allowing it for local then it starts a slippery slope into allowing it for national elections
Posted on 5/25/23 at 8:57 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Suggesting that local people perhaps should decide who votes in their local elections, rather than some distant legislators. Awful, right?
Distant regulators aren't deciding , local citizens are.
Your absolutely ridiculous argument has been thoroughly and effectively answered.
Citizen voting ensures a modest level of commitment, assimilation and hopefully appreciation for American liberal values.
That moderation is , of course, a reasonable approach.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:22 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:No, quite the opposite of what you assert. That is the very POINT of this thread.
Distant regulators aren't deciding , local citizens are.
The Legislature in Austin is attempting to pass a resolution which would impose a statewide rule and PRECLUDE local jurisdictions from deciding for themselves whether to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:28 pm to AggieHank86
quote:And you're just confirming your obtuse "argument". Today's illegals are tomorrow's "permanent residents". The fact that you cannot see the long-game in play is not a sign of intelligence nor strategic thought.
I quoted you talking about illegals to SHOW that YOU were talking about illegals
Shortsighted thinking like yours is how we lost education for at least two generations. Incrementally from the local school board up. The Left played chess why "republicans" like you played checkers. Still happening.
Up next... voting. And you're too busy trying to claim faux contrarian points to see the train coming to roll over you. Congrats.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:32 pm to AggieHank86
quote:You want an expliaintion of something that has been common sense for 100s of years? You deserve the insults. And you are the one that should be providing the argument of merit.
Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:33 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
nothing. Figured as much.
You in a nutshell
Show me the law.... if it is such a solid absolute?
Also you never answered earlier when I shut you down... just conflate something else as is y you out pathetic style
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:45 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
The Legislature in Austin is attempting to pass a resolution which would impose a statewide rule and PRECLUDE local jurisdictions from deciding for themselves whether to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections.
it’s literally insane you’re even debating this. there is no argument. either citizenship matters, or it doesn’t. and if it doesn’t, then you need to give one of your 4 paragraph screeds that one sentence would satisfy. income tax
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:49 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
No, quite the opposite of what you assert. That is the very POINT of this thread.
No it isn't.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:52 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Suggesting that local people perhaps should decide who votes in their local elections, rather than some distant legislators. Awful, right?
Noncitizens should not vote, simple as that. Are other countries stupid enough to let them?
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