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A list of the 54 Texas Democrats who shot down citizen-only voting rights
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:17 am
Sickening.
Cowards even voted "present" instead of "nay."
#openborderagenda
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:25 am to 19
Why should legal, permanent residents be banned from voting in local elections by some “higher” governmental unit, if the majority of the local jurisdiction wants to let them do so?
Do you disagree with the founding premise that the government which governs best is that which is closest to the people?
Do you disagree with the founding premise that the government which governs best is that which is closest to the people?
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:26 am to AggieHank86
US citizen. Not asking much.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:27 am to AggieHank86
Citizenship and voting are a rule for nearly all countries, especially civilized countries.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:29 am to goatmilker
quote:Again, why?
US citizen. Not asking much.
Legal local residents pay property and sales tax. They use the streets and their (often-citizen) kids attend the schools. Why should a local jurisdiction by state dictate be precluded from letting them vote on local matters?
Do you hate local government?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:31 am to AggieHank86
If citizenship means so little to you, would you please surrender yours?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:32 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Do you disagree with the founding premise that the government which governs best is that which is closest to the people?
The irony is that you are importing voters from a culture (and not requiring assimilation) that don't agree with and/or don't understand our founding principles.
ETA: Requiring citizenship at least attempts to fix this problem
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 9:33 am
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:33 am to OTIS2
So, you have no answer either?
Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.
Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:34 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Again, why?
You are smart enough to know all the many reasons why. And floating local gov in our face is vacuous as there are many many many things local gov should not be able to vote for.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:35 am to ProbyOne
quote:What is the basis for your premise that this description applies to legal residents?
you are importing voters from a culture (and not requiring assimilation) that don't agree with and/or don't understand our founding principles.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Legal local residents pay property
Only if they own property (and we know most do not). I own property and pay tens of thousands in property tax in three different jurisdictions where I'm not allowed to vote, so...?
quote:
and sales tax.
So do tourists and anyone else traveling through. I should get voting rights in every place I've paid sales tax over the last year?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:37 am to AggieHank86
Do you disagree with the founding premise that citizenship is at once an ideal, definitive, desired, and practical?...
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:40 am to AggieHank86
quote:Holy smokes.
Why should legal, permanent residents be banned from voting in local elections by some “higher” governmental unit, if the majority of the local jurisdiction wants to let them do so?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:40 am to AggieHank86
quote:
AggieHack86
You never did explain why state and local law enforcement are required to give Miranda warnings since, as you say, "the Bill of Rights only applies to the federal government".
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:42 am to AggieHank86
quote:Because only legal citizens should be allowed to vote in ANY election in ANY country.
permanent residents
WHy is that complex for you to grasp.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:43 am to AggieHank86
quote:Same reason we have natural birth requirement for president, and voting since... the 1700s.
Again, why?
If you allow the mass migration of people by the millions (and they will be given amensty to be permanent residents, at least) you can change the composition of the government very quickly and not for the better.
You basically allow another nation to overrun your government at the voting booth.
I mean... this concept has been around since the founding of our country. I guess it's the first you've ever heard of it?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Legal local residents pay property and sales tax.
Speculation
quote:
They use the streets and their (often-citizen) kids attend the schools.
So do illegal's
quote:
Why should a local jurisdiction by state dictate be precluded from letting them vote on local matters?
Learn to speak english, take a civics class and wait in line.
quote:
Do you hate local government?
All forms of it UNTIL, of the people, by the people, for the people.
You know why the democrats voted this way.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:44 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Why should legal, permanent residents be banned from voting in local elections by some “higher” governmental unit, if the majority of the local jurisdiction wants to let them do so?
Do you disagree with the founding premise that the government which governs best is that which is closest to the people?
quote:
legal, permanent residents
So, so close. What is missing from their legal, permanent residency Hanky? I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count.
What if the majority of the local jurisdiction wants to declare that their neighborhood is sovereign Mexico?
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:50 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Explain the logic of requiring national citizenship to vote in local elections. Leave the childish insults aside.
Because States are not allowed the create a specific sub citizenship. National citizenship is the only legal category allowed because the founding fathers never imagined a time when half of the population hated America so much that they would want foreigners to decide how they are governed.
Posted on 5/25/23 at 9:51 am to BengalOnTheBay
quote:Do we? Why do you think that legal residents pay no property tax? (setting aside the fact that renters pay property tax as a pass-thru with their rent.quote:Only if they own property (and we know most do not)
Legal local residents pay property tax.
quote:I do too. We should.
I own property and pay tens of thousands in property tax in three different jurisdictions where I'm not allowed to vote
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