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re: a goat herder in the desert with a machine gun didn't do 911
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:50 am to ThatTahoeOverThere
Posted on 9/22/22 at 11:50 am to ThatTahoeOverThere
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I believe you. Its hard for others to accept that our own government would do such a thing but once you realize that our government and media has been taken over by foreign entities its not so hard.
Makes THE TERMINAL LIST very real feeling.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:08 pm to Indefatigable
Point is, there are still "holes" in the official account and report that leads some serious minded people to question the whole thing.
Even eye witnesses, at the time, including reporters, gave accounts of what they saw that does not follow the narrative.
The Pentagon: Eyewitnesses, Transcripts, Official Records Refute 'The 9/11 Commission Report'
Available evidence does not support the claim that AA Flight 77 struck the Pentagon on September 11, 2001
Wisdom Fund
I really don't want to rehash all this here. There is plenty of that available with a simple search. If you want to believe what we have been told by these lying, treacherous Sons of Bitches, that is your prerogative.
I DID...
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Had a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, its wings would have been found outside the Pentagon. But these wings were not found outside the Pentagon!
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Pilots for 9/11 Truth conclude: "Arlington's unique topography and obstacles along American 77 'final leg' to the Pentagon make this approach completely impossible".
Even eye witnesses, at the time, including reporters, gave accounts of what they saw that does not follow the narrative.
The Pentagon: Eyewitnesses, Transcripts, Official Records Refute 'The 9/11 Commission Report'
Available evidence does not support the claim that AA Flight 77 struck the Pentagon on September 11, 2001
Wisdom Fund
I really don't want to rehash all this here. There is plenty of that available with a simple search. If you want to believe what we have been told by these lying, treacherous Sons of Bitches, that is your prerogative.
I DID...
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:12 pm to LookSquirrel
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Had a Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon, its wings would have been found outside the Pentagon. But these wings were not found outside the Pentagon!
False. No way you believe that the wings would have just broke off intact and laid outside the building Do you even physics? That’s almost as dumb, but not quite, as the people who believe the planes tail should have been sticking out.
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Pilots for 9/11 Truth conclude: "Arlington's unique topography and obstacles along American 77 'final leg' to the Pentagon make this approach completely impossible".
The flight data recorder, ATC, eyewitnesses, and thousands upon thousands of pieces of physical evidence say these random guys are full of shite.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:17 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:Without an answer to that, there's no theory to state otherwise.
That's above my pay grade.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:18 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
quote:I'd argue there's quite literally a 0.0% chance that the 100s or more likely 1000s of people it would have taken to pull off, there's zero chance not a one of them would have talked by now.
I believe you. Its hard for others to accept that our own government would do such a thing
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:23 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Conspiracy theorists are the absolute worst.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:26 pm to LookSquirrel
quote:I'm not trying to be an a-hole here, but that dude just debunked every conspiracy you had and your reply is basically, "yea, but there are other things"
Point is, there are still "holes" in the official account
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:28 pm to Indefatigable
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quote:They say it looks like a Scud missle that hit the Pentagon
Who is they? There are pictures of an airplane hitting the building, and witnesses who saw an airplane hit the building. They found pieces of the airplane all over the place in, on, and around the building.
Do you find it a little bit peculiar the only vid we ever see of the jet hitting the Pentagon is the low resolution vid that is impossible to discern what is actually striking the Pentagon? How many surveillance cameras do you think were mounted on that side of the Pentagon? 4-5-6? How many surveillance cameras were operating in the path of the object miles before the object hit the Pentagon? Dozens? Hundreds? Yet there seems to be one low res vid that's frequently used to show the attack on the Pentagon.....hmmm.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:30 pm to LookSquirrel
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You may be right but the "goat herder", that only had rudimentary flight training, on a small plane, being able to hug the ground like that with a large airliner and hit that precise spot is still hard to believe. Not saying it's impossible, just "seems improbable".
Agreed. Unbelievable that he didn’t plant that thing 1/2 mile before the Pentagon.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:36 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
OBL wasn't a goat herder. He came from a very rich and successful business family, inherited millions, attended university, and even attended Oxford for a couple of years.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:37 pm to Bass Tiger
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Do you find it a little bit peculiar the only vid we ever see of the jet hitting the Pentagon is the low resolution vid that is impossible to discern what is actually striking the Pentagon?
No, at least not to the point of suspicion.
I have no doubt there were other videos from cameras on/around Pentagon property that weren’t released and probably never will be. Even if not and there weren’t any other cameras, the eyewitness and physical evidence is simply overwhelming.
The only reason we have videos of the towers being hit is because people randomly happened to be shooting video (north tower) and the whole damn world was watching on live TV (south tower). It’s a weird expectation IMO that, pre-post 9/11 security measures, every inch of the Pentagon was just being filmed constantly.
There are plenty of curiosities in what happened in 9/11, who orchestrated it, motivation etc. But this whole line of conspiracy that some or all of the planes were faked, etc is simply looney tunes that displays a deep ignorance of the evidence.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:38 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
Whatever really happened or who did it, the official story is a crock of shite.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:39 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:I do find that peculiar, but as the other poster put pretty succinctly, not nearly as peculiar as the alternative being true, which is:
Do you find it a little bit peculiar
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Let me get this straight. In your view: everyone who saw the plane fly over their cars on the interstate and slam into the building are lying, everyone who lost loved ones on the plane are lying, the people inside and near the Pentagon who saw the plane are lying, American Airlines is lying, ATC is lying, the photographers and journalists who documented parts of the airplane are lying, relief workers who dealt with and cleaned up the pieces of the airplane are lying?
How many people are you saying are lying and have been able to keep their mouths shut for twenty years? The above gives you a number well into the thousands, and doesn't even count people who investigated the incident afterward.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:42 pm to LSUPilot07
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Conspiracy theorists are the absolute worst.
People who bought into the 9/11 official storyline gave us the following:
-War on Terror
-Patriot Act
-Iraq War
-Afghan War
-Massive deficits
Conspiracy theorists have done far less damage to this country in the last quarter century than the rah rah 'Murica patriots who bought our government's lies hook, line and sinker.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 12:43 pm to SCLibertarian
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People who bought into 9/11 official story
There is plenty of room to question the official narratives/details.
Whether there were airplanes involved is not one of those reasonable questions to have. In fact all those theories do is undermine legitimate inquiries.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:21 pm to shel311
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I do find that peculiar, but as the other poster put pretty succinctly, not nearly as peculiar as the alternative being true, which is:
You’re missing the point of my post. There’s no reason to feed the conspiracy crapola if there are other vids that clearly show the aircraft striking the Pentagon. When the only vid ever shown of the Pentagon being slammed by some object is inconclusive it will always allow people to think there’s a conspiracy.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:24 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
You mean OBL? The billionaire?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 1:28 pm to LSUPilot07
quote:as opposed to ...someone who believes all that is said and shown on news media to be true,
Conspiracy theorists are the absolute worst.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:03 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:I hear you, i do.
You’re missing the point of my post. There’s no reason to feed the conspiracy crapola if there are other vids that clearly show the aircraft striking the Pentagon. When the only vid ever shown of the Pentagon being slammed by some object is inconclusive it will always allow people to think there’s a conspiracy.
But you see right here in this thread, 1 poster made claim after claim, and another poster debunked every single point he made. And that poster still just moved the goalposts so far that he said all his incorrect claims weren't the point, the point that there were still holes!
It just shows no matter what they are presented with, conspiracy theorists will keep at it.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:13 pm to umrebel2009
also had nothing to do with the owner who had just bought the towers 6 months prior and conveniently took out $7B in insurance that INCLUDED terrorist attacks.
miraculously he didn't show up to the towers that one day because he had a dentist appointment that his wife scheduled him....he went to the dentist that day for the first time in 10+ years...what a coincidence man
I'm sure its also a coincidence that the building was filled with asbestos that needed to be removed costing the new owner millions in abetment cost
all coincidence man
miraculously he didn't show up to the towers that one day because he had a dentist appointment that his wife scheduled him....he went to the dentist that day for the first time in 10+ years...what a coincidence man
I'm sure its also a coincidence that the building was filled with asbestos that needed to be removed costing the new owner millions in abetment cost
all coincidence man
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