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re: A few interesting details on the SCOTUS rule from yesterday in scotusblog.

Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:16 pm to
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That's the point.

The point is that the AEA is an impotent solution to the purported problem?

You sure that's really the point you were trying to make?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:17 pm to
You are better at getting the dummies on here to chase your irrelevant, masturbatory red herrings. That should answer your question more than sufficiently.
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:18 pm to
How entitled are they? They come here illegally, don't learn any English, and then complain that the government doesn't communicate with them in Spanish.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:19 pm to
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That should answer your question more than sufficiently.

Not even close

Again, I completely understand why you're punting to avoid discussing your hypothetical in detail.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:21 pm to
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The point is that the AEA is an impotent solution to the purported problem?

You sure that's really the point you were trying to make?


How do we deport a wave of invaders before the system is overwhelmed?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:22 pm to
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I completely understand


Prove it for once. I imagine you're the only one without doubts about that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:23 pm to
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How do we deport a wave of invaders before the system is overwhelmed?


As I've explained to y'all for years. You have to fund a bunch of judges and courts to process more.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Prove it for once.


I did, by pointing out the absurdity that we couldn't deport 100M with expansive use of the AEA. When presented with this, you've run and gone the Stephen Miller route.
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:27 pm to
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As I've explained to y'all for years. You have to fund a bunch of judges and courts to process more.


What's the point of AEA then?

We are back to the chicken and egg scenario with meeting the criteria.

Trump's team should have argued that first.

SCOTUS punted.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:27 pm to
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It’s important to understand the details. If I’m reading correctly ScOTUS didn’t rule Trump can’t remove them under the AEA. It sounds like the proper procedure using the AEA is to give clear notice to those the govt intends to remove so they have time to challenge their status as alien enemies. They told the administration they must do this And they also told the lower courts to review these challenges and rule on them in an expedient manner. So in a nutshell they told Trump admin to dot the i’s and cross the t’s and told the judges don’t drag it out forever rule and get on with it.




Like the poster below said, we don’t inform citizens 24 hours before an arrest.



This is again going above and beyond what we get.


The fact these illegals can get a court date, a decision, an appeal and it taken to the SC in such a short amount of time is not how it works for regular folks.


This post was edited on 5/17/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Like the poster below said, we don’t inform citizens 24 hours before an arrest.


The arrest is not the comparable stage of a prosecution.

Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:28 pm to
So you don't understand. Thanks.

I dont think you've failed to mischaracterize a single argument submitted before you. For years now. It is such an unproductive and tedious shtick to endure, especially with the quantity we get out of you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:29 pm to
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What's the point of AEA then?

It's for military purposes.

Hence why it's only been used 3x (IIRC) and all during declared wars.

The illegal immigration problem isn't a military scenario, which is why attempting to use it was always tenuous.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:30 pm to
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I dont think you've failed to mischaracterize a single argument submitted before you

Posted by NewbombII
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
In short it's illegal to deport illegals.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 1:32 pm to
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In short it's illegal to deport illegals.

No. Nobody has argued that.
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:27 pm to
What's the point of AEA then? How do we deport invaders when the system gets overloaded? It will be too late.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:29 pm to
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What's the point of AEA then?

For military actions.

quote:

How do we deport invaders when the system gets overloaded?

More immigration judges.
Posted by thetempleowl
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 2:30 pm to
Was it previously decided that judges do not have the power to decide who falls under the preview of the alien enemy act.

I thought that was under the discretion of the president.

Did the court just say that they can review every detainee action and they get appeals in court?

Or is that just under the alien enemy act, in which case the act is now worthless?
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