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A few interesting details on the SCOTUS rule from yesterday in scotusblog.

Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:08 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:08 am
Sorry for the block of words.

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The Supreme Court also told the government that it should provide anyone who was designated for removal under the Alien Enemies Act with notice of that designation, which must be provided in a time and manner that will allow them to challenge the removal before it occurs. In the wake of those instructions, a group of Venezuelan men in immigration custody in the northern region of Texas went to federal court on April 16, seeking once again to block their removal under the Alien Enemies Act. U.S. District Judge James Wesley Hendrix denied their request, indicating that the detainees were likely “not facing such an imminent threat.” The detainees returned to Hendrix and renewed their request, telling him that some of them had been notified that their removal could indeed occur at any moment. Moreover, they told him, even the men who had received notices had only received notices in English, even though most of them speak only Spanish, and the notices did not inform the men that they can challenge their designation as “alien enemies.” When Hendrix had not yet acted on their request, the detainees went to the 5th Circuit and then to the Supreme Court. Shortly before 1 a.m. on April 19, the Supreme Court ordered the government “not to remove any member of” the would-be class of detainees from the United States unless and until the Supreme Court indicates otherwise. In its unsigned opinion on Friday afternoon, the justices explained that the court of appeals was wrong when it dismissed the detainees’ appeal on the ground that it lacked the power to review it. Appeals courts, the court reasoned, have the power to review non-final orders that “have ‘the practical effect of refusing an injunction.’” When a federal district court does not take action “in the face of extreme urgency and a high risk of ‘serious, perhaps irreparable,’ consequences may have” precisely that effect – as Hendrix’s failure to rule on the detainees’ request for more than 14 hours did, the court concluded.


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Turning to the question of the notice that the detainees in this case received and whether they had a meaningful opportunity to challenge their removals, the court observed that the Trump administration did not challenge the detainees’ description of the barebones notice provided to them, or that it was preparing to carry out removals before the Supreme Court intervened on April 19. Moreover, the justices added, when the Trump administration has said that it cannot “provide for the return” of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man whom the government admits was mistakenly sent to an El Salvadoran prison, the “detainees’ interests at stake are accordingly particularly weighty.”


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In this case, the justices concluded, the notice that the government did provide to detainees – “roughly 24 hours before removal, devoid of information about how to” contest that removal, “surely does not pass muster.” But the court of appeals, rather than the Supreme Court, should “determine in the first instance the precise process necessary to satisfy the Constitution in this case,” the justices wrote.


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Finally, the justices stressed that they were not addressing whether the detainees can actually be removed under the Alien Enemies Act. Instead, they merely “recognize[d] the significance of the Government’s national security interest as well as the necessity that such interests be pursued in a manner consistent with the Constitution. In light of the foregoing, lower courts should address AEA cases expeditiously.”


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Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote a short separate concurring opinion in which he emphasized that the court’s opinion today “simply ensures that the Judiciary can decide whether these Venezuelan detainees may be lawfully removed under the Alien Enemies Act before they are in fact removed.” He added that, if it were up to him, he would have kept the case in the Supreme Court to resolve the “critical legal issues” quickly, rather than sending it back to the lower courts.



https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/05/supreme-court-again-bars-trump-from-removing-venezuelan-nationals/
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:10 am to
Literally none of that is interesting in the least.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47157 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:16 am to
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Literally none of that is interesting in the least.

I found it all interesting.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79566 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:17 am to
This goes way beyond due process.


This is called, due bending over backwards for illegal aliens.




Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14833 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:17 am to
The Supreme Court just cowered on the law chicken shite frickers
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8805 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:21 am to
Time for Congress to get off their arse, do their jobs, and chance our immigration laws


All of this administrations difficulty in enforcing their immigration agenda is downstream of really really shitty laws made by previous legislatures. Republicans had a mandate, use it and change the laws
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
5105 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:25 am to
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In light of the foregoing, lower courts should address AEA cases expeditiously.


Horse shite, they wrote that KNOWING it will NEVER happen and WANTING that to be the case.

That is a perfect example of lawyers using the "law" to gutlessly punt on making any decision that doesn't require more bullshite money generating wasting of time.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51397 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:28 am to
The 14th Amendment's original intent was hijacked, twisted and destroyed by progressive lawyers.

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The Fourteenth Amendment (Amendment XIV) to the United States Constitution was adopted on July 9, 1868, as one of the Reconstruction Amendments. Considered one of the most consequential amendments, it addresses citizenship rights and equal protection under the law at all levels of government. The Fourteenth Amendment was a response to issues affecting freed slaves following the American Civil War


The 14th Amendment was never intended to allow illegal immigrants jumping the border or arriving by ship or plane to drop an anchor baby, but left leaning legal scholars saw an opportunity to use the 14th amendment as a means to facilitate unfettered immigration/chain migration.

The incremental destruction of our constitutional republic over the past 150 years has been largely orchestrated by progressive lawyers operating within an undeniable left leaning judiciary.

If the spirit of Satan were to occupy a profession, it would certainly be the legal profession.......



Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46141 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:38 am to
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But the court of appeals, rather than the Supreme Court, should “determine in the first instance the precise process necessary to satisfy the Constitution in this case,” the justices wrote.

This is total bulllshit - ''the constitution" is being violently raped in their back yard & they are complaining the neighbors are not doing enough to stop it.

They sat around and polished their fingernails for 4 years while the Democrats flooded the nation with tens of millions of illegal aliens, without regard for ANY law - they twiddled their fingers while democrats demanded that every one of those aliens had to be housed, fed, educated, provided with health care and employment if they wanted it. They were busy planning their next vacation while foreign enclaves created their own protection zones.

this SCOTUS is a HUGE disappointment
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
42660 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:41 am to
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Literally none of that is interesting in the least.


Why? Because YOU don't understand it?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36539 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:43 am to
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The order relied on the Alien Enemies Act, a 1798 law that gives the president the power to detain or remove citizens of an enemy nation without a hearing or any other review by a court if Congress declares war or there is an “invasion” or “predatory incursion.”



What am I missing here?

Does the 14th amendment nullify this?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
21918 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:43 am to
Maybe I’m a simple man, but shouldn’t the process be:

1) are you here legally?

2) are you a criminal?

3) have you committed additional crimes?


If 1 is yes, then 2 is yes by the nature of the answer to 1, then of 3 is yes there should be a ban waiting for them to take them to a plane to take them back from whence they came.


shite should take about 5 minutes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
451755 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:50 am to
quote:

The 14th Amendment's original intent was hijacked, twisted and destroyed by progressive lawyers.


Does this case even rely on the 14th Amendment?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451755 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:51 am to
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Why? Because YOU don't understand it?

No he just rejects the reality of legal systems and the processes needed for a system of laws to work.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36539 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:51 am to
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Does this case even rely on the 14th Amendment?


What is SCOTUS referring to in the Constitution?
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
5105 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:57 am to
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the processes needed for a system of laws to work.


You make sure to tell us when we actually get some of those.

The country is going to be destroyed because of this bullshite. EVERYBODY knows whenever the democrats con their way back into power they are going to do whatever the frick they want.

What kind of fricking legal system is that, that depends so fundamentally on who is elected? Why the frick do elections matter with respect to the "legal" system? If it was legit, everybody would appoint the same sort of judges.

Instead, we have Justice Jumanji and we are supposed to respect the Supreme Court. There are obviously no standards of quality applied to the selection of justices.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
157196 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 8:58 am to
wasn't one of these SCOTUS bloggers arrested for pedophilia? you can see their mimicking the media stance clearly...

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Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man


They all go through immigration court. Why in the entire frick is the SCOTUS worried about gang members rights? ICE and immigration courts does this vetting not SCOTUS. It is now purely political I don't GAF how many little college think tank circuits Roberts gives the everyone get along and never cites the Boasberg judges talks.

The DC cocktail circuit is now the President?
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
Member since Jun 2011
2046 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:00 am to
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Time for Congress to get off their arse, do their jobs, and chance our immigration laws


That has been the answer for years now….
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451755 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:01 am to
quote:

What is SCOTUS referring to in the Constitution?

The 5th Amendment.
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
3817 posts
Posted on 5/17/25 at 9:01 am to
The 14th amendment does not mention illegal immigrants and that was not an issue under consideration when it was drafted. Same goes for the 5th Amendment, another law relied upon by the pro immigrant left.

The presence of 50 million illegal immigrants and the need to be able to manage and deport them en masse was not and could not have been under consideration during the time of the Reconstruction amendments.
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