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re: 9-year-old nephew recent book report subjects: Cesar Chavez and Stephen Hawking

Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:19 am to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27029 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:19 am to
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Yes, folks, instead of George Washington or Thomas Edison or Abe Lincoln, schools are now making kids read and learn and lionize a communist anti-American Mexican and a known atheist scientist who said humanity was basically a virus, just waiting to anihalate itself.


Since were being uncharitable...

Maybe they should have them read the New Testament, which basically says humans are so horrible that simply being born they deserve to burn in fire for all eternity. Yea yea, I know it's more complicated than that but I'm not after truth I just want my side to win regardless.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:27 am to


So ya got nothing. Compelling argument there!
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:28 am to
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Maybe they should have them read the New Testament, which basically says humans are so horrible that simply being born they deserve to burn in fire for all eternity. Yea yea, I know it's more complicated than that...


Not much more complicated... And if you read the headlines posted here on a daily basis and disagree, you're an idiot.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:29 am to
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The premise of your question is either meant to reinforce whatever conspiracy theories are going on in your head or you are just ignorant.


What do the voices in your head tell you my conspiracy theories are?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:30 am to
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Someone in Oklahoma wants their kids to be ignorant.


I agree! The teachers unions only survive by perpetuating ignorance.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:32 am to
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I'm not after truth I just want my side to win regardless.


Your honestly is surprising!
Pat yourself on the back!!
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27029 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:33 am to
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Your honestly is surprising!
Pat yourself on the back!!


I know sarcasm is hard to detect online but damn...
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:34 am to
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Those are two pretty important people totally appropriate for a book report. Unless it was actually “instead of” George Washington and the like but that seems unlikely. You sound like a snowflake.



You sound like a fricking alter pulling shite out of your arse.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8893 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:32 am to
Wouldn’t happen. They’d turn in a report of someone else after a call from me to the principle
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:43 am to
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I know sarcasm is hard to detect online but damn...


"That wasn't sarcasm/sarcasm."

W. Goldberg
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:53 am to
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known atheist scientist who said humanity was basically a virus,



your kid is going to be worshiping satan and sucking dick in no time. probably too late to do anything about, tbh
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34818 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:56 am to
There are many many MANY more fundamental characters a nine-year-old should be studying before those two. They aren't even in the top 10,000, so odd they'd reach them for book reports by age 9.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:00 am to
This is a silly melt. Both those guys had an impact on society and history and are proper subjects for study. Even the bad has to be studied
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:12 am to
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and a known atheist scientist who said humanity was basically a virus, just waiting to anihalate itself.


Oh no! A KNOWN atheist?!?



You just complained about a report on Stephen Hawking...this board.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 9:32 am to
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ut she grew up and is intellectually sound, has Ivy League aspirations and is a good kid.


Ivy League schools are borderline child abuse. If you have a good state school pick that one.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5948 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:22 am to
I intentionally made students write about controversial subjects when I was teaching. I've assigned topics on the KKK, Joseph Kony, Lenin, etc. A report isn't meant to glorify a person, but to show both good and bad things. But I wouldn't be in an uproar about Chavez or Hawking. They are pretty relevant to modern times.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22804 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 11:16 am to
My son is in the 11th grade and taking U.S. history. So far, most of what I've seen is material on labor relations, unions, strikes, etc. in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. He has to do a report this week on friggin' Eugene Debs.

I'm not arguing that any of that is not important to learn about, but I've asked him have you learned anything about the Revolutionary War? The Civil War? Lewis and Clark? Andrew Jackson? Reconstruction? Nope, not a damn thing. It's been a solid nine weeks on labor.

Thank God he was interested in the other stuff to have been reading and learning about that on his own since he was ten years old.
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5948 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:22 pm to
11th Grade US History picks up at the end of Reconstruction. The time period is 1877-about 2010. They cover that other stuff in the 8th Grade and in High School World History. He'll soon be covering World War I, The Roaring 20's, the Great Depression, World War II, and the Cold War.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20417 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:54 pm to
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Ivy League schools are borderline child abuse. If you have a good state school pick that one.



There are strong pockets of conservatism at many of them. We toured Columbia and were really surprised. For example, Redeemer Presbyterian (Tim Keller's church) is close to their campus, and has a huge influence at Columbia. We spoke to students and they said that the vast majority of students at Columbia were there to study and excel. Things like the "Mattress Girl" situation are only supported by a couple dozen radicals, but most of them work at the student newspaper that no one reads. Columbia doesnt have classes on Friday because they encourage students to work - and most students work at evil capitalist Wall Street firms.

We have a family friend whose daughter went to Yale. Her opinion is that the majority of students are conservative, but they are silent.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25905 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:17 pm to
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11th Grade US History picks up at the end of Reconstruction. The time period is 1877-about 2010. They cover that other stuff in the 8th Grade and in High School World History. He'll soon be covering World War I, The Roaring 20's, the Great Depression, World War II, and the Cold War.


When and why did this change and why is it so different from AP?
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