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Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:26 pm to Stidham8
I say with sincerity that it must be hard to treat patients who in retrospect made a bad choice or drew the short straw of covid randomness, but it was their choice, and should be.
No one should be forced into taking the vaccine. Everyone should measure their own risk and make a decision using the best available information (which isn’t very good).
Some examples;
1. An 18 year old, healthy, not fat, no one counting on them, can handle 1-3 weeks of being sick, and has a lot of years to potentially suffer from an unknown vaccine side effect. Very low risk of drawing the covid randomness short straw. A reasonable decision is to not get the vaccine (but many are being forced to)
2. A 50-year old, generally healthy, not fat, has a family counting on him, hard to miss 3 weeks work, not as many years to suffer from a side effect. Higher risk of drawing the covid randomness short straw. A reasonable decision is to take the vaccine (but should not be forced to).
A question for the hospital docs: have you turned away or not given a high standard of care to non-covid patients who need critical care?
No one should be forced into taking the vaccine. Everyone should measure their own risk and make a decision using the best available information (which isn’t very good).
Some examples;
1. An 18 year old, healthy, not fat, no one counting on them, can handle 1-3 weeks of being sick, and has a lot of years to potentially suffer from an unknown vaccine side effect. Very low risk of drawing the covid randomness short straw. A reasonable decision is to not get the vaccine (but many are being forced to)
2. A 50-year old, generally healthy, not fat, has a family counting on him, hard to miss 3 weeks work, not as many years to suffer from a side effect. Higher risk of drawing the covid randomness short straw. A reasonable decision is to take the vaccine (but should not be forced to).
A question for the hospital docs: have you turned away or not given a high standard of care to non-covid patients who need critical care?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:35 pm to Earnest_P
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Ever since this started, the hand has been heavy on the scales, skewing the information we are given and the story we are told, every step of the way trying to stoke fear and control behavior. It is not our fault we don’t trust the powers that be on this.
Absolutely. I say the same to my liberal friends who downplay any doctor that doesn’t agree with their presuppositions too. It is political all the way around
Posted on 8/25/21 at 5:58 pm to David_DJS
quote:So do you not understand "nomenclature" or my post?
I read a Stanford teaching hospital report on their CV19 "data" - they reported 30% of CV19 patients were asymptomatic
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:42 pm to Tigertoof
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My wife runs a hospital…it is no exaggeration but you with no insight into actual hospitals have formed a false truth.
It's not a false truth. The news has been saying that hospitals are being overrun for two months. That's a truth.
They are exaggerating this claim. If not, channel 5 news would be at these hospitals showing patients flopping around in the hallways.
Nothing has been done to assist the hospitals in such dire situations
Posted on 8/25/21 at 6:46 pm to Stidham8
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87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine
I’d like other health statistics of this 87.5% other than just unvaxxed.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 7:17 pm to NC_Tigah
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No. By all means, no.
My God!!
You are a perfect fit in healthcare administration.
Congrats! you've found your dream job.
Great retort
Now explain to me how UAB gets their confirmed vaccination data from random incoming patients who walk through the door. And by explain, I mean the time line, job schedules, tech used, sources ETL’ed, and the data schema designs preferred. THEN explain the parameters passed and why they are used to come to the data conclusions we are given every day.
You can’t.
I can.
And I am telling you, from two decades of personal experience, by the time raw medical data hits the public in the form of a “report”, it’s usually shite because it has to pass through about 3 of 4 levels of “approval” (at least) before it’s ever seen.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 8/26/21 at 7:07 am to theunknownknight
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from two decades of personal experience,
Nah, you ain't what the Media calls an "expert", you're just some schlub with real-world experience....who would believe you?!? /s
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