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81 years ago today, the man who would change A&M the most led an assault for the ages

Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:09 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23090 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:09 am
James E Rudder was president of Texas A&M in the 60’s and led its transition from all male and all military to admitting women, racial integration, and making the Corps voluntary.

He had the credibility to make these changes because nobody could call him soft on the issues.

One thing that earned him that credibility was leading an assault on D-Day that climbed sheer cliffs to take out a battery of German artillery with a range that enabled them to hit all of Utah and Omaha beaches.

The story of their attack and success is a well-known part of Army lore.



US Army Historical Foundation

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Understanding the perils and vital importance of the landing beaches along the coast of Normandy, Supreme Allied Commander General Dwight D. Eisenhower and his staff planning Operation OVERLORD assigned the Rangers of the 2d and 5th Ranger Battalions, under the direction of Lieutenant Colonel James E. Rudder and organized into the Provisional Ranger Group, the mission of destroying the enemy positions on the cliff top.

Unbeknownst to Allied planners, the Germans failed to believe that U.S. military command would consider the cliff top accessible by sea. The Americans, however, considered it an accessible assault point and reasoned that with a well-trained force, soldiers could land on the narrow beaches below at low tide and ascend the cliffs with the assistance of ropes and ladders. When Lieutenant General Omar N. Bradley told Rudder of the assignment, the Ranger officer could not believe what he had heard, but he understood the importance of the mission at hand.

In his memoir, A Soldier’s Story, Bradley wrote, “No soldier in my command has ever been wished a more difficult task than that which befell the thirty-four-year-old Commander of this Provisional Ranger Force.” An intelligence officer on the staff of Rear Admiral John L. Hall, the commander of naval forces supporting the landings at Omaha, claimed that the mission could not be accomplished by the Rangers, adding that, “Three old women with brooms could keep the Rangers from climbing that cliff.”
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 8:17 am
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:10 am to
Where would he stand on the Qatar issue?
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:19 am to
Was he ghey? I guess that is implied being aTm. I wonder his thoughts on male cheerleaders.
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 8:21 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 8:24 am to
Our country was blessed with the most dedicated population in the history of the modern world at that time. Most of these men had come of age during the depths of the Great Depression - and thus had a fundamental character impossible to replicate by simple 'study' - they had lived and survived based elementary fundamental truths.

Watching the 'soy-boy' strain of manhood today, I am not certain we could summon/sustain another initiative like that.

But probably more important than that = we also had a country filled with MOTHERs who molded their children into worthwhile citizens while undergoing unrelenting scourges of widespread poverty, bad luck, and governmental ineptness which had generated the economic collapse.

When I look at the prevalent status of motherhood today, it is hard to envision how we can emerge from our self induced stupor.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23090 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:18 am to
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Was he ghey? I guess that is implied being aTm. I wonder his thoughts on male cheerleaders.

I swear, you people can’t even let D-Day tribute go by without dragging in this childish crap.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:27 am to
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I swear, you people can’t even let D-Day tribute go by without dragging in this childish crap.

It's like programmed into their brains and they don't know what else to do or say.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 9:28 am to
ANSWER THE QUESTION
Posted by ATCTx
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/6/25 at 10:04 am to
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I swear, you people can’t even let D-Day tribute go by without dragging in this childish crap


Yep. It's gotten embarrassing.

Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8929 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:42 am to
James Rudder was an amazing man with quite the list of accomplishments.

In the 1950s, LSU was blessed to have a like-minded man by the name of Gen. Troy Middleton who sat as president of the university. During his time as president, the LSU Corps of Cadets wore the Blue Star on their uniforms indicating the Corps of Cadets at LSU was the top unit in the 4th Army District. Texas A&M, also in the 4th Army District, wore the silver spurs denoting the premier cavalry unit in that district.

Over time, as ROTC was no longer required of all freshmen and sophomore underclassmen, the Corp of Cadets at LSU dwindled and its influence waned. But during the late 1940s and up to the late 1960s, the rivalry between LSU and Texas A&M was rather heated, and it wasn't simply about football. It was about institutional pride.

I'm glad to see our two schools' rivalry somewhat reinvigorated after so many years. I will always hold you Aggies high esteem (although I'll refuse to admit this come football season). You have a very proud and patriotic tradition.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19709 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 11:51 am to
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I swear, you people can’t even let D-Day tribute go by without dragging in this childish crap.


What did you expect? This is a college sports derived message board. A&M is late to the game in this conference with crazy traditions ands is now behind Texas in the pecking order. You half knew when you posted this you would get this sort of feedback.
Posted by Friendly Satan
Member since Nov 2024
648 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:06 pm to
Methought you were referencing LSU A&M
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47764 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:09 pm to
LSU produced more officers into World War II than any other university not named West Point.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
16621 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:10 pm to
“These are the boys of Pont du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end a war.”

Ronald Reagan, June 6, 1944

God Bless his brave soul. God Bless all the brave men that fought on that day.
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 12:23 pm
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
29687 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:12 pm to
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James E Rudder


Brave man, true American hero... Applaud his forward thinking but I bet you he is rolling over in his grave at what this country has become...
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
7151 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:15 pm to
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LSU produced more officers into World War II than any other university not named West Point.

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Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23090 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:23 pm to
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LSU produced more officers into World War II than any other university not named West Point.

Ahem.

Sincerely impressive, but…

LSU CORPS OF CADETS HISTORY

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During World War II, LSU was in the top five schools producing officers for the military, after Texas A&M University, the United States Military Academy, and the United States Naval Academy. LSU had more than 5,000 former students serving as officers, including 16 who achieved the rank of Brigadier General or higher.
This post was edited on 6/6/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
5465 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:29 pm to
That was an incredibly heroic dude. I did not know his story. Thanks for posting it.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
23090 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:32 pm to
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That was an incredibly heroic dude. I did not know his story. Thanks for posting it.

One of my boys actually did a middle school project on him. Can’t remember where he got it, but even wore a vintage WWII Army cover when he presented it.

Kinda surreal to see him wearing an almost identical one now as a 1LT.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7996 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Was he ghey? I guess that is implied being aTm. I wonder his thoughts on male cheerleaders.


Shut up jackass. Time and place for everything. This isn't it.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
8929 posts
Posted on 6/6/25 at 1:34 pm to
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LSU produced more Army officers into World War II than any other university not named West Point.


Just that one word makes the difference, I believe.

In the spring semester of 1954, due to the size of the combined Army and Air Force ROTC units (the Corps of Cadets) at LSU, the ranking ROTC cadet was given a fourth diamond in his insignia to denote that he was the Corps Commander and held rank above the AF and Army ROTC cadet colonels. The idea was floated that the new rank be called "Cadet General". The student who first wore this rank, R. N. Tullis, was asked his opinion regarding the name of the rank. He stated that "cadet general" sounded preposterous and the rank should be called "Senior Cadet Colonel" since "no way in hell could a cadet be considered a general officer in any form of the word. (In theory, though not in practice, he would have outranked the Cadet Corps Commander at West Point that year.)
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