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re: 49 fully vaccinated people in New Jersey have died from COVID-19

Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:59 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 7:59 am to
Sounds to me like it feeds on the weak, whether you take their poison or not
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:03 am to
How many people in New Jersey died of the flu in 2019 that were also vaccinated for the flu? Flu vaccines are only 50-60% effective. Considering the fact that roughly 40k dies of the flu every year I bet it was more.

Government control of your life due to COVID should have ended once everyone had access to the vaccine. STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO LIVE!!! I'm over Covid.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:06 am to
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There is more than plenty of data available. You simply don't believe it.


Huh, no much of the rough european data is contrary to what is being implied here.

Of course, they are not giving numbers on the amount of people already previous infected and reinfected rates of those.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/60-people-being-admitted-uk-hospitals-had-two-covid-jabs-adviser-2021-07-19/

They ended up correcting this to 40%, if these numbers are even remotely close... those are a disaster.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:07 am
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15724 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:07 am to
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Let us not forget that New Jersey has the highest per capita death rate in the entire country. Odd you never hear about that.



Worth repeating.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34165 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:09 am to
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There is more than plenty of data available.


How many people have died from reinfection.

What’s that...you don’t know.

Then go frick yourself.

The vaccine works, and people over 60 should strongly consider it (over 70 it should be highly recommended). However, don’t act as though there is a plethora of data concerning reinfections, and that should be part of the equation. There isn’t, and there is NO LEGITIMATE REASON for that to be the case...period.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:27 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60044 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:11 am to
FLGranny wants to know why aren’t all the unvaxxed homeless population who surely have underlying conditions and don’t follow CDC social distancing guidelines all dead??

Can't they afford CNN?

Why do the airport refuse homeless access to their facilities, so they can find out what they should be dying from?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32712 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:13 am to


JFC. You people are so fricking stupid.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
60044 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:13 am to
We also don't have an explanation for why this extinction-level infection event has not decimated the Amish population.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
60044 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:19 am to
Another thing, did anyone else notice that we didn't start to see variants of covid-19 until we started fricking with the mRNA of it?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:56 am to
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JFC. You people are so fricking stupid.


I'm not the one saying there is plenty of data but have yet to show me plenty of data. You didn't provide anything of real value in your post btw.

Clearly we need raw data.

But what we know is >99% of people have no real fear of the virus even if they do nothing.

The irony of your comment, you are projecting as you go the jab and now you are trying to justify it... you don't need justification.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:59 am to
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FLGranny wants to know why aren’t all the unvaxxed homeless population who surely have underlying conditions and don’t follow CDC social distancing guidelines all dead??

Can't they afford CNN?

Why do the airport refuse homeless access to their facilities, so they can find out what they should be dying from?


> 99% of population will not be dead from this, and a majority of the population won't even show signs of it. Even people that have 2 or more medical conditions are unlikely to die from it.

A good portion and maybe a majority of the population have had the rona and lived.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:01 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50516 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:00 am to
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Right. Vaccination is not totally protective, Biden's mumbled claims not withstanding. But to be fair, 3000 unvaccinated died from CV19 in the same timeframe. Roughly a 60:1 ratio.


Now add the number of people who died from the vaccine to the number of people who died of COVID with the vaccine. That would be a more accurate comparison.

Too bad we don't have that actual number yet.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123945 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:17 am to
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What is the timeframe? Does it stretch back to the beginning of the year when most people weren’t vaccinated?
Good question.
I should have specified. The timeframe is Mar 2021 to present, roughly the vax time course.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19522 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:22 am to
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Let us not forget that New Jersey has the highest per capita death rate in the entire country. Odd you never hear about that.


NJ is followed Cuomo's lead with their nursing homes too.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20520 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:52 am to
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all politics aside, it takes a special kind of stupid to not admit the vaccine is wildly effective.


Seriously.

Imagine being so fricking stupid that you would rather be exposed to a virus made in a Communist Chinese laboratory as a weapon of war, than the American made vaccine that offers you an extraordinarily high likelihood of protection from it.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:56 am to
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Seriously. Imagine being so fricking stupid that you would rather be exposed to a virus made in a Communist Chinese laboratory as a weapon of war, than the American made vaccine that offers you an extraordinarily high likelihood of protection from it.


You're going to be exposed to the virus and it doesn't matter what you do.

Some suggestions for people that don't want to be infected:

- die
- purchase an island that has no connection to the real world and hope nobody comes over
- buy a spaceship

All I got.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:57 am
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20520 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:57 am to
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I'm not the one saying there is plenty of data but have yet to show me plenty of data. You didn't provide anything of real value in your post btw.

Clearly we need raw data.

But what we know is >99% of people have no real fear of the virus even if they do nothing.


Demands real data.

Makes up fake data.


The stupidity of antivaxxers is stunning. This kind of dumb is literally why we now live in a country where people think that men can have babies.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:57 am to
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You're going to be exposed to the virus and it doesn't matter what you do.


Of course it matters what you do
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:58 am to
You know that vaccines aren't 100% effective, right?

You do know that right?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:59 am to
Martin Van Buren should have told us.
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