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re: 37 year old man who hit on 16 year old at Starbucks banned

Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:57 pm to
Self-glossing = party foul
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:00 pm to
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:49 pm to
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I believe in the freedom to serve who you want as a private business. I also like pointing out hypocrisy when it is shown.


When I was a kid in a small Texas town, I first began to notice a sign in a local cafe which read "We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service To Anyone". In that case, it was all about race. Should the owner be allowed to discriminate in this case?
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 1:52 am to
Sure and then (because racism is wrong) fewer people will frequent his store. The opportunity for other businesses who don't share those prejudices will now have the opportunity to take the new consumers and grow. Freedom isn't all sunshine and rainbows, sometimes people will abuse it to do things that others deem "offensive" or is morally repugnant like racism. Freedom is the ability to choose, and some people choose wrong. Pointing a gun at the racist store owner and forcing him to sell is not justified just because society doesnt like his choice.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 1:54 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:57 am to
Can he not just claim he is a transgender lesbian and he was asking her how she would like Starbucks to decorate their engagement muffin? Seems like that would tick enough boxes.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58440 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:15 am to
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Should the owner be allowed to discriminate in this case?


Yes. And if the community finds that business owners practices objectionable, he will lose business and then ultimately, go out of business. That's how the free market should work.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:26 am to
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Creepy? Yes.


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he did nothing legally wrong.


just like 'gay marriage'
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58440 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 5:33 am to
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Yea, let's hold a rally for this guy.


I never advocated for the guy even once. If you read any of my post, I've consistently advocated for the right of a business to serve who they want.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67546 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:15 am to
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Since when?!

Unless the "offended" is gay then all hell breaks loose
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58440 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:17 am to
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Unless the "offended" is gay then all hell breaks loose


The problem is that being gay has been defined as a protected class, which should have never transpired.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 6:19 am
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:32 am to
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The dude is obviously a creeper and I seriously doubt his side of the story where he acts completely innocent of being a pervy frick that was weirding out the staff.
I think too many are getting distracted by the creepiness of this fricking weirdo.

The real story here is
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claiming businesses have a right to refuse service for any reason.
and the hypocrisy of when this is acknowledged, enforced, and believed in by certain segments of the population.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58440 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:40 am to
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and the hypocrisy of when this is acknowledged, enforced, and believed in by certain segments of the population.


Apparently, businesses only have the right to deny service when the reasoning behind it is politically correct.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7617 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:43 am to
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Apparently, businesses only have the right to deny service when the reasoning behind it is politically correct.
That is exactly my point. And the PC crowd wonders why everyone else is sick and tired of their bullshite...
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17564 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:51 am to
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oh look Revelator with a 'us Christians are persecuted because we cant discriminate' post


Bake me a cake!

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58440 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:57 am to
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Bake me a cake!


Or else!
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17564 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 6:57 am to
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Who cares? Why shouldn't Starbucks be allowed to discriminate against whoever they want?


Bake my cake!

(I think this is is the first time I've upvoted you, btw)
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Yes. And if the community finds that business owners practices objectionable, he will lose business and then ultimately, go out of business. That's how the free market should work.


That's not really a free market if the majority is only able to vote yes or no. Btw, that business lasted over 40 years until the owner died. I'm pretty sure that few, if anyone in that small town voted with their feet.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:15 pm to
Pick your battles.

Guy is a creep, gets called out for being a creep, actively promotes being a creep.

Businesses are allowed to protect their employees.

This does not equate to a bakery that bakes wedding cakes refusing service to people for being gay. Or a restaurant that refuses to serve people based on skin color.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58440 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:18 pm to
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This does not equate to a bakery that bakes wedding cakes refusing service to people for being gay. Or a restaurant that refuses to serve people based on skin color.


That your spin on it. I'm not comfortable with the government telling private businesses who they have to do business with under any circumstances. I guess you are?
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72427 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 3:21 pm to
Any business should be able to discriminate for any reason.

That should be applied evenly, no matter how arbitrary the reason.

If that isn't the case 100% of the time, I oppose instances such as this.
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