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re: 33% of EBR voters believe non-US citizens should vote.

Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:27 am to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49529 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:27 am to
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If non-citizens can vote, can non-citizens be elected?


WAIT - That is an inspirational thought!!!

How about that we have an amendment that says you cannot vote for any office you are ineligible to hold???

THAT would put the voting age for POTUS to at least 35, along with many other offices reduced to 21.

Let 18 yr olds be restricted to whatever is left over.

I believe that would be in the sense of the original constitution. At that time a 21 year old was a seasoned citizen, or else someone who nobody respected. Hell - any 15 yr old at that time had more real world sense than 3/4 of the 21 yr olds today.

And the DEMOCRATs want to reduce it to 16 !!!!
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42364 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:30 am to
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I don’t know, but his card was no yes yes on the amendments.


Only thing I see is how they could possibly harvest illegals ballots and mail in ballots. Imagine a Dem organization with the power to fill out all those ballots.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23094 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:53 am to
Well the language used was a double negative and I believe 1/2 of those who pressed NO thought "No, I do not want non-US citizens to vote" and probable 1/2 of theose who pressed yes thought "Yes, I do want non-US to vote".

The passage writers did their best to fool the voter. They do it all the time.

It should have said "Do you want illegal aliens to be able to vote in a US election"? yes or no
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22475 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:32 am to
anyone who was born in the US who can't get ahold of a duplicate birth certificate shouldn't be trusted with a vote.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 11:36 am to
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They just voted the way the preachers and Cleo told them to vote.
I think a lot of posters here don't realize this happened.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7623 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:36 pm to
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First off I voted yes on this issue yesterday. Second off, that’s not what the bill was saying. It was a close decision for me since proof of citizenship is a way to stop US citizens from voting. So many are without an ID, passport, and can’t find the birth certificate but we’re born in the US


This is the dumbest thing I've read today.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11013 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:50 pm to



if a non-us citizen can vote in a federal election

should a non-state citizen vote in a state election

should a non-county/parish citizen vote in a local election
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:59 pm to
Obviously, some municipalities and local jurisdictions in the country have taken steps in recent years to allow non-citizens to vote in LOCAL elections.

Was the State of Louisiana concerned that one of its cities was about to do this?

If not, what was the purpose of this Amendment? Virtue signal?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37318 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Was the State of Louisiana concerned that one of its cities was about to do this?


It was an attempt to prevent any effort by NOLA to do so in the future, IMO.

The Secretary of State also mentioned that existing language in LA could conceivably lead to confusion between citizens of the State vs. residents of the State vs. US citizens, but I haven't looked at it in any detail.

quote:

If not, what was the purpose of this Amendment? Virtue signal?

The Legislature wanted to head off any effort by NOLA at the pass. So in that since virtue signaling with an eye towards never even letting such an effort get off the ground if the legislature ever went back to the Democratic side. But when you add in the context that Louisiana amends its Constitution instead of governing via legislation, it is less abnormal than it seems. Our state Constitution is a dumpster fire and has been amended hundreds (if not more) times.
This post was edited on 12/11/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37318 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:20 pm to
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First off I voted yes on this issue yesterday. Second off, that’s not what the bill was saying. It was a close decision for me since proof of citizenship is a way to stop US citizens from voting. So many are without an ID, passport, and can’t find the birth certificate but we’re born in the US

Link to proof of "so many" having this fake problem?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37318 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:25 pm to
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It should have said "Do you want illegal aliens to be able to vote in a US election"? yes or no


"Should the Constitution be amended to prevent individuals who are not United States citizens from voting in state and local elections?" Would have been so much more clear than what they trotted out.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:30 pm to
I have always thought that "yes/no" was a stupid way to vote on these things.

Provide a summary of the proposed Amendment.
Adopt ____ Reject ____ (choose one)
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 1:55 pm to
That’s because they’re already voting
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33730 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

So many are without an ID, passport, and can’t find the birth certificate but we’re born in the US


A little fricking personal responsibility or some shite.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35076 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 2:49 pm to
29% statewide let that sink in.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28496 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 3:43 pm to
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28% of that 33% are low IQ voters who were utterly confused on the wording of the Amendment.


Which like it or not, actually gives it a chance
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