re: 3,000 died 9/11 63,000 have died since then at the hands of illegals WOW

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democrats look at accountability like its poison ivy.

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Nothing in this thread was an argument between democrats or republicans. It’s an argument over random numbers with no source being used in an emotional argument with no substance.

8 million people were victimized by guns last year.

13,147 were killed by toilets.

84,000 were killed by natural gas leaks in their homes.

I don’t even have to source those on this board, the only thing I need it to do is jive with the sentiment of the majority of posters on here and they will buy it without question.

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Kinda like publishing photos of kids in “cages”?

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exactly like that

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But muh children... Democrats have used emotion as basis for all of their legislation in last few decades..

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And I rejected those premises as well.

Source?

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An appeal to emotion.

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Like using crying children?

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63,000 over the course of 17 years comes about to ten deaths a day across a population pool of 320 million people. And I guarantee that number includes things like traffic fatalities involving illegals. So basically, the chance of you dying in event involving an illegal alien, violent or not, is .00000003% per day.

There are great reasons for supporting massive immigration reform. Fear of death is not one of them.

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Can I use the same argument for the argument that to many unarmed people, regardless of race, are killed by police officers?


213 unrmaed citizens over the course of 3 years (2015-2017) comes about to one death every 5 days across a population pool of 320 million people. And I guarantee that number includes things like when the suspect is attacking the officer, or when there is an indirect affect from using a taser. So basically, the chance of an unarmed person dying in an event involving a police officer, justified or not, is .000000001% per day.

There are great reasons for complying with officers. Fear of death is not one of them.

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Can I use the same argument for the argument that to many unarmed people, regardless of race, are killed by police officers?

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Yes, it's a pretty good example of emotional appeal that lacks substance

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Yes, it's a pretty good example of emotional appeal that lacks substance

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I agree. While I get the notion that the number should be 0 since they technically shouldn’t be here, the real problem is not only the financial dependency of illegals on the American taxpayer but also billions of untaxed dollars going south of the border and out of our economy. If they want to work here, great. Get a work Visa and when that expires get another one. The problem is that they don’t care about our rules.

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Meh,

An appeal to emotion.

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Quoting statistics is an appeal to emotion?

I hate to shite on your toilet seat but you do realize that undocumented immigrants are still in the minority right? Of course they don't commit as many crimes as "native-born" people when looking at total crimes.