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3 changes that should have 75%+ support behind them
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:43 am
Posted on 9/20/23 at 4:43 am
1) Term Limits for all federal office. (And states hopefully follow on state level as well)
2) No more PACs. Or at minimum the PAC has to have to be subject to all the same laws (minimum donation, etc) as the canidate does
3) No out of state, and definitely no foreign money allowed for any canidate. Only exception is the President who is the only canidate that runs a national campaign. But still must be American only.
I could think of a bunch more. But if you go and talk to most people, they will agree with these points, yet it stands no chance of being passed in Congress.
2) No more PACs. Or at minimum the PAC has to have to be subject to all the same laws (minimum donation, etc) as the canidate does
3) No out of state, and definitely no foreign money allowed for any canidate. Only exception is the President who is the only canidate that runs a national campaign. But still must be American only.
I could think of a bunch more. But if you go and talk to most people, they will agree with these points, yet it stands no chance of being passed in Congress.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:00 am to burger bearcat
Take away tax exempt status of all NGOs.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:12 am to burger bearcat
For some weird reason democrats won't support 2 or 3 at all
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:33 am to burger bearcat
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yet it stands no chance of being passed in Congress.
well yea. you are asking people of power, to relinquish power, and limit the time they can stay in power....
same reason we will never get rid of government hand outs. over 50% of people in this country no longer pay a net tax to the federal government. you think those people are ever going to vote people into office that will take away the freebies??
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:35 am to burger bearcat
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1) Term Limits for all federal office. (And states hopefully follow on state level as well)
2) No more PACs. Or at minimum the PAC has to have to be subject to all the same laws (minimum donation, etc) as the canidate does
3) No out of state, and definitely no foreign money allowed for any canidate. Only exception is the President who is the only canidate that runs a national campaign. But still must be American only.
I could think of a bunch more. But if you go and talk to most people, they will agree with these points, yet it stands no chance of being passed in Congress.
1) All three of these things greatly benefit the slime in Washington.
2) The slime in Washington has complete control as to whether or not any or all of these things gets submitted for vote, and ultimately passed into law.
3) The slime in Washington know that 100% of the voters could be for these things and all they have to do is drop them a few crumbs like free tuition or lower taxes a little and they will forget all about the fact that the people they voted for don't care about what they want.
America can not vote themselves out of this comeplete shitshow we are in politically.
Voters have no power anymore. They gave all of it away to the corrupt Washington swamp a long time ago.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:53 am to ksayetiger
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For some weird reason democrats won't support 2 or 3 at all
Cenk Uyger has advocated for this for years. Look back to him and Tucker at Politicon debates. Now the left loves them some TYT when they're all over any Republican, esp DJT.
But they would fire up the torches if TYT would get behind a moderate or conservative to support the ideas in the OP.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 5:59 am to IT_Dawg
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well yea. you are asking people of power, to relinquish power, and limit the time they can stay in power....
We the people do not need their permission to institute Congressional term limits. It could be accomplished via Article V.
The states may convene a Convention of States and introduce Constitutional amendments.
Now, the feasibility of doing it that was is a completely separate discussion, but it is the inaccurate to say that we are dependent on those with power to surrender it.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:13 am to VoxDawg
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We the people do not need their permission to institute Congressional term limits. It could be accomplished via Article V.
The states may convene a Convention of States and introduce Constitutional amendments.
I think it ends up coming to that as deficit spending continues to snowball.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:25 am to ksayetiger
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For some weird reason democrats won't support 2 or 3 at all
Neither will most Republicans.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:33 am to Cuz413
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Cenk Uyger has advocated for this for years.
He was just on Jordan Peterson podcast. Haven’t stomached listening in just yet. Will though.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:33 am to burger bearcat
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PAC
I think if you are not registered to vote, you should not be able to donate, therefore, businesses, corporations, PACs, etc should not be able to give.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 6:52 am to burger bearcat
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1) Term Limits for all federal office. (And states hopefully follow on state level as well)
I disagree with this proposal. It sounds great but without a check on the bureaucracy, we could have a worse problem. I would rather know the devil that I’m dealing with instead of a more powerful, faceless bureaucracy that’s run by people behind the scenes, with no accountability to voters. You basically increase the power of the swamp instead of diminishing it.
What I would change, is to repeal the 17th Amendment and go back to state legislatures selecting senators. I think that would have a more positive effect than federal term limits
This post was edited on 9/20/23 at 6:55 am
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:15 am to Bourre
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I disagree with this proposal. It sounds great but without a check on the bureaucracy, we could have a worse problem. I would rather know the devil that I’m dealing with instead of a more powerful, faceless bureaucracy that’s run by people behind the scenes, with no accountability to voters. You basically increase the power of the swamp instead of diminishing it.
How about something disallowing federal employee unions?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:17 am to burger bearcat
I like the first one, but it would be too easy to figure out a way around the second two.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:18 am to DellTronJon
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I think if you are not registered to vote, you should not be able to donate, therefore, businesses, corporations, PACs, etc should not be able to give.
Agreed. The problem is that the law views businesses as entities impacted by laws created by politicians, thus they have 1st Amendment rights to redress their grievances. PACs and SuperPACs are seen as being part of that free speech.
I bring this up only to note how big of an uphill battle it would be. I guarantee liberals would lose their minds to the point where we would see them actually coming out and defending the rights of "billion-dollar corporations" as many of their politicians couldn't get elected without those businesses funding SuperPACs.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:27 am to Bard
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How about something disallowing federal employee unions?
100% would support. You know who else was against public sector unions? FDR, the leftist hero, thought government unions was a bad idea and he was right
Posted on 9/20/23 at 7:33 am to VoxDawg
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Now, the feasibility of doing it that was is a completely separate discussion, but it is the inaccurate to say that we are dependent on those with power to surrender it.
Actually there is some debate as whether or not Congress could enact legislation that could pass legal muster without goi g the route of a Constitutional Amendment. It has to come from the people.
Posted on 9/20/23 at 8:07 am to Bourre
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I disagree with this proposal. It sounds great but without a check on the bureaucracy, we could have a worse problem. I would rather know the devil that I’m dealing with instead of a more powerful, faceless bureaucracy that’s run by people behind the scenes, with no accountability to voters. You basically increase the power of the swamp instead of diminishing it.
Is that not what we already have, an unelected faceless bureacracy?
Posted on 9/20/23 at 8:08 am to burger bearcat
Yea Dems are totally cool with giving up ZuckBux
Posted on 9/20/23 at 8:19 am to VoxDawg
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We the people do not need their permission to institute Congressional term limits. It could be accomplished via Article V.
The states may convene a Convention of States and introduce Constitutional amendments.
I would love to see this happen, because you would have talking heads on all major networks sky screaming how this is "unconstitutional"

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