re: 2025 trade deficit higher than 2024 trade deficit

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Sure as long as you're consistently doing that no matter which why they're moving

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As long as we are importing things that we do not actually manufacture, why is this such a flashpoint?

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I think there’s a reason you don’t want to show your work.

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I didn't come up with the numbers

It comes from the Bureau of Economic Analysis

I work in the private sector

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The U.S. trade deficit totaled $839.5 billion through the first 11 months of 2025, compared with $806.5 billion in the same period in 2024.

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So Joe Biden was a better administrator of the money than Trump?

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Powerman

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Return in 12 months with an update. The trajectory puts on on the correct path and to be at a lower deficit than 2024 by mid-year.

If it holds, will you eat crow?

You definitely make excuses for them here.

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Figures don't lie. But liars figure, and in this case they hooked you. They imply impeding foreign imports while boosting domestic production leads to increased US trade deficits. That is nonsensical

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I'm looking beyond what you're looking at. You know and I know that everyone here bitching had no idea that this was the case.

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I've been told that Trump's trade policy would reduce the trade deficit and that would be awesome awesome

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So if a country has a trade deficit of 850 billion but brings in 600 billion in tariff income, what is the real deficit?

Marketwatch told me the Ukrainians sunk a Russian battleship last week.

Well not really MW, but one of their spam emails that you are added to when you unsubscribe to MW’s emails.

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They imply impeding foreign imports while boosting domestic production leads to increased US trade deficits. That is nonsensical.

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Not necessarily. For example there was one lone mass market bike manufacturer that closed in NC earlie this year, because of tariffs. Now you might ask yourself “why would a domestic manufacturer close due to tariffs?”

Simple. Most of their machines, machine tooling parts, supplies, raw materials, and components all have to be imported. No domestic sources and none anywhere on the horizon. Tariffs put their COGS well beyond their profit margins and, for the most part made their machines unserviceable.

To make it even worse, the tariffs on the finished goods is lower than it is on most of their raw materials. So the move to relocate manufacturing makes complete sense. Had two clients face the same thing.

It’s pretty clear our trade policy isn’t aimed at returning manufacturing, nor maximizing revenue. It’s about generating tag, rah, headlines, and that’s about it.