re: 2016 Trump Tower Meeting looks Increasingly like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office -

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So you think they planned this elaborate 6 month scam to use in case Trump got elected, when all they had to do is leak to the press in late October that Trump operatives were colluding with the Russians and Trump has no chance.

Sorry, but that makes no sense.

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“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office - that there’s no way he gets elected - but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Strzok texted in August 2016. “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”

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You’re not allowed to actually quote them in Tex’s world. You have to come up with a flight of fancy to accompany their plain words.

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And why didn't they just come out and leak the bad stuff to the press instead. Game over.

What bad stuff did they find?

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How about they just leak the Page speech and meeting with the Russian officials in Moscow. And spruce it up with some nebulous details about "collusion". Game over.

Yahoo has picked up the story (for the plebs...)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/63f510d3-96af-34d4-aa7d-56be3548c597/ss_russian-collusion.html

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Russian Collusion Investigation: It Was Hillary Clinton All Along
Investor's Business Daily
August 13, 2018, 6:00 PM CDT

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It's beginning to look as if claims of monstrous collusion between Russian officials and U.S. political operatives were true. But it wasn't Donald Trump who was guilty of Russian collusion. It was Hillary Clinton and U.S. intelligence officials who worked with Russians and others to entrap Trump.

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The media have spun a tale of Trump selling his soul to the Russians for campaign dirt to use against Hillary, beginning with the now-infamous Trump Tower meeting.

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But "a growing body of evidence ... indicates that the meeting may have been a setup — part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials," wrote Smith.

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Smith painstakingly weaves together the evidence that's already out there but has been largely ignored by the mainstream media, which have become so seized with Trump-hatred that their reporting even on routine matters can no longer be trusted. But he adds in more evidence that the Justice Department only recently handed over to Congress. And It's damning.

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The media knew all this, of course, but largely ignored it.

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As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign — aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI. What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality.

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I added this to show this is filtering down to the “average” American (yahoo)

Soon...

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So you think they planned this elaborate 6 month scam to use in case Trump got elected, when all they had to do is leak to the press in late October that Trump operatives were colluding with the Russians and Trump has no chance.

Sorry, but that makes no sense.

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Two things they could not control was time and bureaucracy. Steele approached the FBI re: the dossier in Early July 2016, but things were moving slowly. Then they tried to leak it to the press but got no traction:

Simpson's testimony before Congress:
Well, so there were two instances of this or rounds of it, and I think I was beginning to recount this earlier. In the -- in whatever the first round
was, I assume it was sometime in mid-September or early October, it was mainly about telling the press, a few high-level members of the national security press, and the, you know, top-level press that we had information that there was a
Russian intelligence operation that the Russians were engaged in, you know, that this was more than just hacking, and that there was a major effort to interfere with the election, and that it allegedly involved the Trump organization.

But I didn't, you know -- it was -- basically in a political campaign, you know, when you get past Labor Day people stop publishing stories that could be perceived as a late hit or an October surprise or some kind of a stunt.
And so, you know, in a presidential campaign you're sort of winding down at that point. You know, all of the information that you needed to gather for debates or political ads or anything like that, it's all been gathered.
So that was round one. Then -- and indeed, no one ran off and wrote a big story about how Russian - how a British spy is -- thinks that, you know, the
Russians are working with the Trump people.
There were, you know, a trickle of stories, you know, I guess more than a trickle, but there were some very limited stories about people associated with Trump having connections to the Russians. And I can remember specifically there being stories about Carter Page and his trip to Moscow and the fact that that was something that was of FBI interest, and that Carter Page stuff is something that we covered with the media. But anyway, so none of that made a dent in the sort of general coverage.

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So you think they planned this elaborate 6 month scam to use in case Trump got elected, when all they had to do is leak to the press in late October that Trump operatives were colluding with the Russians and Trump has no chance. Sorry, but that makes no sense.

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You’re right. That makes no sense.

What DOES make sense is they were building the platform and evidence trail to go after and destroy Trump after HRC won.

They never thought she’d lose. This is the key.

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They never thought she’d lose. This is the key.

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THIS

You have GOT TO REMEMBER they were doing all this with the assumption she would win and none of their activity was going to come out.

So you think it’s just a coincidence that Simpson worked with V&A through Prevezon?

You think it’s just a coincidence that he was with them the morning of the meeting and again at dinner the next night (Simpson’s own testimony btw)??

All the Russians in the world and the same ones close to Simpson stage a meet with Trump Jr?

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If you know anything about the history of the Clintons, you would know that their aproach is to destroy any and all political opponents. Winning an election is not enough for them. They must annihilate their challengers so that those individuals can never oppose them again. In spite of what her syncophants were telling her about the polls, etc., Hillary is also a paranoid who would want her own "insurance policy" to take Trump down, just in case the election tightened in Oct/Nov. She knew that the email scandal had damaged her, as well as her "deplorables" comment. She also was furious about Trump's portrayal of her and no doubt wanted revenge by destroying his reputation. The problem was that the pieces of their conspiracy (dossier, leaks to press, leaks to McCain) came together too late to get much traction in the media prior to the election.

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good first post.