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re: 2000 Mules Fact Checking

Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:37 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:37 am to
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or any of a dozen plausible explanations

Lol
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:38 am to
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exactly. if it had any merit, it would be in court


Posted by RealDawg
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:39 am to
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f you watch the film, they looked at high frequencies to all but eliminate any chance at a false positive.


They tell us what they did but only show one example not backed up with video or timestamps stopping at box locations or non profits. Sorry but people have been burnt over and over with “ I got the smoking gun”. Their big play was cell data and they just verbalized it and nothing else. The expectation can’t be we just believe you. Not after all the baiting that has gone on with that election and fraud.

I want to believe but the one cell graphic they show doesn’t actually match real drop box locations. I took the time to check.

I am hopeful they produce more in a better format. For all that work and money, the vidoe of single drop offs was the only thing really close to moving.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:39 am to
You are typing out really long posts to repeat the point in your OP.
Posted by Indefatigable
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:40 am to
I didn't read the whole thread, but have the people who put out the movie explained why they did not at least name the NGO's involved?
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by RealDawg
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:40 am to
I am.
Posted by haroldoftherocks
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:43 am to
fascinating rebuttal

if one had actual evidence/proof of rigging the us election system, it would be in court. instead, it's a convicted felon - convicted of campaign finance fraud no less - making a movie
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 11:45 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:44 am to
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if one had actual evidence/proof of rigging the us election system, it would be in court.


Are you new to politics?
Posted by NineLineBind
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:45 am to
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They claim too have that exact info. The question would be, why not show it?

Lawyers.

I think the documentary producers are trying to get the law involved in tracking the mules down, but good luck with that.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:47 am to
i already addressed the time stamps and I acknowledged that some other video of the "same perp" dropping off at a separate location would have been nice - so why do you keep repeating yourself? It doesnt explain away the evidence presented.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:49 am to
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if one had actual evidence/proof of rigging the us election system, it would be in court




fn moron

the courts refused to hear over 50 cases loaded with evidence

the evidence is there. they are cowards and are scared shitless the left will KILL THEM if they see/discover this and over turn things. They know once they take on the evidence there is no going back.

LINK
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:49 am to
He obviously thinks the principled and righteous Merrick Garland would take some time off from going after terrorist grade-school moms to address the fraud issue.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:49 am to
The left controls all type of law enforcement from city, county, state and federal. They talked about it in the movie and agreed that it probably would do no good. The left knows this and aren't afraid of any prosecutions because they are in control.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:50 am to
What do you think about the fact that they didn’t show the same person on video at different drop boxes?

Haven’t read the thread through. You may have addressed this.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:57 am to
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Read 6 Fact Checking articles from news papers across the US.





like facebook fact checkers that were proven to be bullshite left wing liars?

facebook fact checks are just mere opinion
Posted by EA6B
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:57 am to
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If you watch the film, they looked at high frequencies to all but eliminate any chance at a false positive. They only categorized mules as someone who pinged at at least 10 drop boxes and 5 political locations in a single day. Much of this was happening in the wee hours of the night. Considering device GPS is accurate to within 20 feet, the chances are almost zero that this criteria could be met accidentally.


They chose to use 10 drop box stops and 5 NGO visits, what accepted statistical methods were used to design this sample criteria and what was the confidence level? In other words why not use 20 drop box stops and and 10 NGOs, or 5 drop box stops and 5 NGOs, each of which would yield vastly different numbers?
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by RealDawg
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:59 am to
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It doesnt explain away the evidence presented.


AJC-explaining it all away due to how it’s presented (with some help from SOS).
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Election investigators have reviewed several videos included in “2000 Mules” and found no illegal behavior, including a video that showed a Gwinnett County man inserting ballots into a drop box, according to the secretary of state’s office. “We investigated, and the five ballots that he turned in were all for himself and his family members,” said Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger during a debate last week. In the movie, D’Souza promotes allegations made by True the Vote, a Texas-based organization that gathered drop box surveillance video and cellphone location data in parts of Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. All were swing states where Biden won. True the Vote hasn’t cooperated with Georgia’s election investigations, refusing to disclose the names of people who allegedly harvested ballots. The State Election Board issued subpoenas on the organization last month to seek documents, recordings and names of individuals involved. The organization also doesn’t explain how ballot harvesting could have occurred. Every absentee ballot is assigned to the voter who requested it, and voters can only cast one ballot each. Returned ballots must be included in an envelope that includes the voter’s registration information, signature, and a bar code. Ballots delivered without an envelope aren’t counted, meaning ballot-stuffing wouldn’t work. True the Vote claims that cellphone location records show that “mules” visited multiple drop boxes in a day, but publicly available location data often aren’t accurate enough to prove that people actually stopped at drop boxes. They could have been driving by drop boxes on busy streets as they travel to and from work. None of the surveillance videos in the movie shows anyone visiting more than one drop box in a day. A map of downtown Atlanta displays cellphone travel patterns, but few of them intersect with drop boxes, which were required to be located on government property such as the Fulton County Government Center.
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:00 pm to
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AJC


Posted by MNCTigah
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:02 pm to
Dinesh making bank.

Yahoo Finance
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:02 pm to
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if one had actual evidence/proof of rigging the us election system, it would be in court.

Bless your heart
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