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re: 2000 Mules Fact Checking
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:07 am to RealDawg
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:07 am to RealDawg
Funny part is I read this “fact check” yesterday.
It’s full of “half truths” like “cell phone tracking data isn’t as accurate as they say it is.” They then fail to mention they have people on CAMERA. (That’s corroboration of the initial evidence of in court)
I do wish they would have shown the same person at multiple drop boxes.
What I found really interesting about the Denver Post article wasn’t the article. (Leftist only fact check what is true, so I expected these)
The COMMENTS however are gold! Yesterday pretty much everyone called out the writer and outline most of the “misinformation” she tried to spew.
So, while I wanted more from the movie, it’s serving it’s purpose. People are recognizing the lies now and are in the the leftist game.
After all. There’s what I can prove and there’s what I know.
I grew up in New Orleans. What the movie shows is just a new skin on an old game.
It’s full of “half truths” like “cell phone tracking data isn’t as accurate as they say it is.” They then fail to mention they have people on CAMERA. (That’s corroboration of the initial evidence of in court)
I do wish they would have shown the same person at multiple drop boxes.
What I found really interesting about the Denver Post article wasn’t the article. (Leftist only fact check what is true, so I expected these)
The COMMENTS however are gold! Yesterday pretty much everyone called out the writer and outline most of the “misinformation” she tried to spew.
So, while I wanted more from the movie, it’s serving it’s purpose. People are recognizing the lies now and are in the the leftist game.
After all. There’s what I can prove and there’s what I know.
I grew up in New Orleans. What the movie shows is just a new skin on an old game.
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:07 am to RealDawg
What people are missing here is they were able to buy the cell phone data and develop a methodology around that data to detect a mule. They set an incredibly high bar to ensure the highest level of integrity.
That's essentially the evidence. Video was secured where available and in places where transparency laws allowed them to access it. Not every drop box in question had video, and some that did were not accessible by TTV. In other words, they dont have video of everything - rather they used the video they were able to get to test their geodata hypothesis - and were able to do so successfully. They also tested it on a murder cold case, and it lead to 2 arrests.
That's essentially the evidence. Video was secured where available and in places where transparency laws allowed them to access it. Not every drop box in question had video, and some that did were not accessible by TTV. In other words, they dont have video of everything - rather they used the video they were able to get to test their geodata hypothesis - and were able to do so successfully. They also tested it on a murder cold case, and it lead to 2 arrests.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:11 am to Vacherie Saint
I’m sure there’s legal restrictions on how they use the individual data.
And while they can reasonably infer who a person is from the data, it isn’t like the data includes a person’s name.
So they could track that geolocator to a home and job location and then cross reference it with white page data and job data, etc. But it’s not 100% conclusive.
And while they can reasonably infer who a person is from the data, it isn’t like the data includes a person’s name.
So they could track that geolocator to a home and job location and then cross reference it with white page data and job data, etc. But it’s not 100% conclusive.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:14 am to RealDawg
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Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:15 am to RealDawg
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without a single person or org identified.
For better or worse, the American people must be slow walked into the reality that there isn't a single bit of our election systems that are neither safe nor secure.
The movie is but the opening salvo of awareness.
Your strategy of rushing headlong into naming names is a surefire recipe for libel/slander/defamation suits, which only lend credence to the endless "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"ing from the left and the nutless RINOs.
The dEbOOnKiNg from the MSM fails to account for the fact that passing by 100 dropboxes doesn't get you in their study. Neither does visiting a single NGO.
What puts you above the Mendoza Line is visiting at least 1 NGO a minimum of 5 times, AND hitting up approx. 30 dropboxes, in succession.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:16 am to RealDawg
IF there was this kind/level of circumstantial evidence found for me in regards to a crime, any DA wouldn't have any issue indicting me, arresting me and bringing me before a court while the investigators connect the dots for a slam dunk sentencing.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:16 am to VoxDawg
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Your strategy of rushing headlong into naming names is a surefire recipe for libel/slander/defamation suits, which only lend credence to the endless "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"ing from the left and the nutless RINOs.
Correct.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:16 am to LafTiger
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Funny part is I read this “fact check” yesterday. It’s full of “half truths” like “cell phone tracking data isn’t as accurate as they say it is.” They then fail to mention they have people on CAMERA. (That’s corroboration of the initial evidence of in court)
Agree. That article wasn’t about “facts” it was about whether you can come up with some justification to write it off. It certainly wasn’t fact checking. Mainly says it could be explained away.
They need to keep at it and deliver with more video and multiple boxes.
Having a quote from Georgia SOS saying one of those people was just dropping off family..allows it all to be put aside.
They need to double down and release a video simple showing all the mules dropping matched to cell data for each one.
The premise of believe us we have it isn’t enough.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:17 am to TigerB8
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IF there was this kind/level of circumstantial evidence found for me in regards to a crime, any DA wouldn't have any issue indicting me, arresting me and bringing me before a court while the investigators connect the dots for a slam dunk sentencing.
The left is painted into a corner. Either the technology used is wholly flawed and not precise enough to be admissible... or they have to admit that the J6 political prisoners who are facing prosecution using this tech should go free.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:18 am to RealDawg
Modern digital video doesnt typically have time stamps. That is all in the metadata. If they would have added timestamps, the libs would be screeching that the video was altered.
I agree that they maybe could have provided more video of the same person making multiple drops, but monday morning quarterbacking is very easy to do.
One whistle blower was enough to impeach a president so Im not sure why thats an issue. I wouldnt expext the antifa types used to make this happen are eager to confess to a felony well within the statute of limitations. They shared local news footage of quite a few citizens attesting that their elderly relatives' votes were harvested and cited some cases where harvesters were caught and brought to justice. Is that not enough to at least admit that the fraud described by TTV occurred at some undefined level? Of course it is.
Be honest. If this same film were released, except the political players were reversed, what would be happening right now?
I agree that they maybe could have provided more video of the same person making multiple drops, but monday morning quarterbacking is very easy to do.
One whistle blower was enough to impeach a president so Im not sure why thats an issue. I wouldnt expext the antifa types used to make this happen are eager to confess to a felony well within the statute of limitations. They shared local news footage of quite a few citizens attesting that their elderly relatives' votes were harvested and cited some cases where harvesters were caught and brought to justice. Is that not enough to at least admit that the fraud described by TTV occurred at some undefined level? Of course it is.
Be honest. If this same film were released, except the political players were reversed, what would be happening right now?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:21 am to mmcgrath
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At this point we have to assume that this doesn't exist. Pretty clear they looked for it and it would be in the movie if they could find it.
OK, now do Donald Trump is a criminal.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:21 am to SidewalkDawg
How did they get access to the Supercomputer in Starkville, MS.?
They seem to have had some "high level" help.
Richard the Saint
The movie is just "greasing the skids", so to speak.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:21 am to RealDawg
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As I expected, the lack of the movie to directly tie it all together with even one person or show one person going to different boxes on video and their cell path leads to it all just being speculation or assumption…without a single person or org identified. Having only one whistleblower and no names didn’t do any favors. In fact, it allowed the issue to be easily written off.
Uhh...
At the 30:30 min mark, they do just what you are saying they did not do. They show the path of one of the GA mules dropping off at multiple dropboxes and at the 5 non-profits.
Here is the map they display:
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:22 am to SidewalkDawg
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The problem is there is no meat behind it. They showed a path on a screen, they claim it was from a single mule. That's all well and good, very compelling. Give me a name. Lets hold these people accountable, get them on video, ask some questions. Hell anything.
Releasing names of private citizens will open them up to lawsuits and rightfully so (only Democrats get away with that). In a perfect world the FBI or state law enforcement would investigate and review the data themselves.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:23 am to BugAC
No kidding. These MFers are unbelievable. Trump was the most investigated human being in the history of mankind, hounded by state and federal agencies incessantly, without a shred of real evidence tying him to any crime.
Now, suddenly, the NPCs need a smoking gun.
Now, suddenly, the NPCs need a smoking gun.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:23 am to RealDawg
You'll get your names when indictments begin dropping. They've already established that the Venn Diagram of ballot traffickers and BLM/ANTIFA actors during the George Floyd Memorial Hunger Games is a perfect circle.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:24 am to GetBackToWork
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Offer a $1M prize for a whistleblower(s) providing documentation confirming without a doubt the tactics, intent, and results of the ballot operation. Given the low paid types helping run these non-profit advocacy org.s, someone would come forward.
Didn’t the AG of Texas try that scheme? And I think it was a million dollars too…but got no takers
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:25 am to the808bass
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Your strategy of rushing headlong into naming names is a surefire recipe for libel/slander/defamation suits, which only lend credence to the endless "REEEEEEEEEEEEEE"ing from the left and the nutless RINOs.
That is fine. I know what they say happened. They are the ones making the case. I’m saying, if this was their opening argument it missed the mark.
Most of their primary evidence is still just in believe me status.
Example..they only showed 1 cell pattern of life the entire movie. It wasn’t at all tied to a video matching a person. The one graphic also showed locations of drop boxes that didn’t actually exist in reality (it was my County and have these mapped on another project).
Why wouldn’t you show one example of a pattern of life and have it timestapped to a person going to at least one if not more boxes on video?
I get they said they had a hard time BUT they did have Gwinnett video and they did show the one path with multiple Gwinnett boxes.
I’m hopeful they just pulled the trigger too soon. Sometimes you can’t make up that ground when you do that.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:27 am to BaldEagleHey
What part of matching that up to video do you not understand?
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:28 am to mmcgrath
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At this point we have to assume that this doesn't exist. Pretty clear they looked for it and it would be in the movie if they could find it.
Lol…. rUsSIaN CoLLusIoN!!! PuTiNS PuppET!! qUID pRo QuO!!!
NOW you are scrutinizing things.
The fact you are not embarrassed even coming here with that is absolutely unexplainable.
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