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re: 2 U.S. service members killed in Iranian attacks on Jordan;China/Russia intel suspected

Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38203 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:23 pm to
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US control of the strait of Hormuz and and end to the Iranian support of its proxies in the region. Regime change would be better but I don’t think we’ll get that.

We don’t have any of that, we are no closer to any of that than we were in February.

But at least we blew up replaceable things and killed replaceable people.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
361 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:23 pm to
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We don’t have any of that, we are no closer to any of that than we were in February.


We’re definitely closer. The war isn’t over.

I do question whether or not Trump will have the will to do what’s necessary to take the strait though.

This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 5:25 pm
Posted by justokatgolf
Louisiana
Member since May 2023
101 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:23 pm to
At least he’s not sleeping on the beach.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18822 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:24 pm to
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U.S. officials suspect China or Russia may be feeding Iran targeting data, after Tehran struck sensitive sites with unusual precision - WSJ


This is what happens when you allow your enemy to maintain comms during war.

Take that shite out now. Power too.

End regime broadcasts. Replace it with US propaganda.
This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38203 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:25 pm to
Nope. Further in fact.

The Strait of Hormuz was completely open before we did stupid worthless shite in February.

Every single problem with the strait is our unilateral doing.

Of course we can’t solve it, but we will definitely keep making it worse
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
361 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:28 pm to
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Every single problem with the strait is our unilateral doing.


This is unfortunately true. But there is still time to rectify the situation. We need to invade the islands in the strait. I’d start with Larak
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1961 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:28 pm to
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200-300 active military members die each year in accidents. While tragic, we've lost 16 in this military action against Iran?????


I understand your point. That being said, those of us who have buried children don’t care about meaningless statistics. Even one young American life lost is one too many.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38203 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:29 pm to
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We need to invade the islands in the strait. I’d start with Larak

Yea! Let’s objectively make everything worse with zero possible upside.
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
361 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Yea! Let’s objectively make everything worse with zero possible upside.


Really, you don’t see any upsides?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38203 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:31 pm to
To randomly occupying islands in the Strait or Gulf?

No. I don’t. But then again I’m not really playing HOI IV either.

The US only loses the more we engage there. Completely and total loss only. There are no positives possible.
This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 5:32 pm
Posted by B747Tiger
Member since Jul 2026
361 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:37 pm to
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To randomly occupying islands in the Strait or Gulf?


There’s nothing random about.

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But then again I’m not really playing HOI IV either.


I don’t know that this means

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The US only loses the more we engage there. Completely and total loss only. There are no positives possible.


This is as hysterical as saying we should nuke Tehran.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10465 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:38 pm to


What are you talkign about.


I bet you hear "iran closed the straight" and think a big wall pops up do you? Or maybe you thinkt hey have navy? Or is it those oh-so-scary naval mines that NO ONE HAS EVER ENCOUNTERED OR SEEN PLACED.


No, its just them threatening to fire guns at the ships going by because they think they control everything - like the Tiny, stupid, muhammad dick sucking cavemen they are
Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
241 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:39 pm to
But they have been attacking our bases and ships for years.

And even though you approve, don't forget the three assasination plots.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12907 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:43 pm to
We had our foot on Irans throat months ago and Trump made that asinine tweet calling for a “two week pause”. Just idiotic.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32575 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:48 pm to
Just nut up and admit Trump unleashed a clusterfrick which he hasn't a clue of how to resolve. The Strait of Hormuz is closed, US military instalments are being attacked, the US Gulf allies are suffering attacks against civilians, a water desalination plant in Kuwait has been destroyed; this whole operation has been a failure of gargantuan dimensions. And how did this happen? I thought Iran's capacity to enrich uranium to produce The Bomb was eliminated by Operation Midnight Hammer, nearly a year ago.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38203 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:51 pm to
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This is as hysterical as saying we should nuke Tehran.

By all means set out the realistic expectations that you have for an operation to take islands in the Persian gulf.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33651 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:53 pm to
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unprovoked attacks.


Are you 7? They’ve been “provoking” since the 70s
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175239 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:53 pm to
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I guess you forgot about 9/11.

Iran had nothing to do with 9/11
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38203 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:54 pm to
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bet you hear "iran closed the straight" and think a big wall pops up do you? Or maybe you thinkt hey have navy? Or is it those oh-so-scary naval mines that NO ONE HAS EVER ENCOUNTERED OR SEEN PLACED. No, its just them threatening to fire guns at the ships going by because they think they control everything - like the Tiny, stupid, muhammad dick sucking cavemen they are

Sweet. You graduated from a public school in the river parishes, didn’t you?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175239 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 5:54 pm to
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Also, this conflict has morphed pretty quickly from winning hearts and minds to cause an uprising >> level the place because it's not going how we want.

This is what happens when the idiots are in charge
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