re: 2 U.S. service members killed in Iranian attacks on Jordan;China/Russia intel suspected

Y’all have taken this “no new wars” thing to such a silly place, in terms of what you’re selling, that y’all are pretty much automatically locked in to the statement that you include any war in that gotcha-ism, ie any war whatsoever that he were to order American military into action, that’s a promise broken, amirite?

So say China sneak attacked Guam, invaded and occupied it - under yall’s interpretation of this thing, you’re going add him if he retaliates against China. That sucks. What’s the point in having a military then??

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Y’all have taken this “no new wars” thing to such a silly place, in terms of what you’re selling, that y’all are pretty much automatically locked in to the statement that you include any war in that gotcha-ism, ie any war whatsoever that he were to order American military into action, that’s a promise broken, amirite?

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No. The Venezuela operation was fine.

This is a shite show.

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So say China sneak attacked Guam, invaded and occupied it - under yall’s interpretation of this thing, you’re going add him if he retaliates against China. That sucks. What’s the point in having a military then??

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Guam is a U.S. territory. Retaliation against such a strike would be not only reasonable but the bare minimum expectation. No one would be holding him to the "no new wars" if we retaliated under that scenario and it's stupid of you to pretend that anyone would.

I would say you're better than that but I'm not sure.

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Y’all have taken this “no new wars” thing to such a silly place, in terms of what you’re selling, that y’all are pretty much automatically locked in to the statement that you include any war in that gotcha-ism, ie any war whatsoever that he were to order American military into action, that’s a promise broken, amirite?

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Brother

We literally started this war

We are in a war. In the Middle East. Again.

Come on.

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So say China sneak attacked Guam,

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What the frick man

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It was a stupid and dishonest point to bring up.

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Comparing the invasion of a US territory to us starting another goddam war in the Middle East is so crazy I don’t even know where to start

I hope I am never so devoted to anyone, much less a stranger, that I need to stoop to that level of mental gymnastics to cope with their failures

Trump’s “orders” have not yielded impressive results so far…

Well, some folks if not many folks would disagree with you that we started the war. If hostilities between America and Iran started with Trump and this most recent episode over a period of time in history, then to what attribute Trump’s direct order to terminate Soleimani? Terminated his arse with extreme prejudice. Was that just random, or perhaps more so a symbolic termination, Trump bagged a big fish, very, very big fish, as repayment or perhaps “compensation” for ____________. Fill er in, if you want to of course.

**Oh, and for the record, Soleimani was a mere down payment, not repayment. Hopefully, anyway. JMO

But to be fair, there’s nothing in existence he could do that would yield impressive results, ones that you would publicly recognize as such. So this is a nothing burger, as always.

Most think this would be reason to escalate. I think it puts more pressure on them to end it after another round of strikes.


But this most likely changes nothing. They’ll continue volleying at one another until the middle part of August once costs begin to rise and then there will be another ceasefire that will last until midterms

I am amazed to see there are dumbasses that think we started this "war in Iran" and that its some how a war of convenience/choice.

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Wouldn't been killed if the war machine hadnt put them there.

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But they were so close to nukes! We had to!