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re: 2 U.S. service members killed in Iranian attacks on Jordan;China/Russia intel suspected

Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:25 pm to
I’d rather be on record with they were close than “Haha there never was any nuclear to actually be worried about!! It was all a conspiracy!!”
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2072 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 10:41 pm to
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We did and it is.


Exhibit A for a failed educational system.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
124226 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:11 pm to
Keep up the fight, patriot. When this movie ends you won’t believe the vindication.
Posted by RUH
Member since Jan 2022
14 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:20 pm to
Have you ever heard of “mobile missle launchers”?
Posted by Smokingsection
Member since Jul 2026
42 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:29 pm to
PRESIDENT Trump needs to take direct control of military operations and get this over with. He should be commanding general yesterday!!!!
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37295 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:38 pm to
That really is a new one. Are you fearful that h’e’s been squeezed out of the picture on this deal?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:42 pm to
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I am amazed to see there are dumbasses that think we started this "war in Iran" and that its some how a war of convenience/choice.


The United States and Israel started this war

Flip a coin and pick which one of the 2 you think is more responsible.

You could argue that we couldn't reign Israel in and that's why we joined (that's the Rubio story) or you could argue we started it with them. But you can't claim that we (the United States and Israel) did not start this war. That is simply ignoring reality.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37295 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:45 pm to
So we couldn’t reign in Israel, and then we could reign in Israel? In somewhere around a month’s time?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/18/26 at 11:56 pm to
Well buddy. It's a theory. If you're going to say we didn't start the war the only explanation could be that we couldn't reign in Israel.

Or you would just have to acknowledge that we DID start the war with Israel.
Posted by FlySaint
FL Panhandle
Member since May 2018
2652 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:06 am to
Or one could argue Iran started the war when they initiated a nuclear weapons program, knowing the reaction that would generate from Israel.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37295 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:16 am to
Trump didn’t start action between these two countries any more than he would “start” the Korean War should an upcoming, future President have to act with military force for some hypothetical reason, for purposes of this example and this post.

Can’t wait to see someone or ones come apart at the seams for the use of Korea, my having used it specifically to be a “flamboyant” example of my musings and cognitive meanderings.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:17 am to
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Or one could argue Iran started the war when they initiated a nuclear weapons program, knowing the reaction that would generate from Israel.

And that would be a weak argument since they have had a nuclear program for decades
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:18 am to
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Trump didn’t start action between these two countries any more than he would “start” the Korean War should an upcoming, future President have to act with military force for some hypothetical reason, for purposes of this example and this post.

So then you would have to claim that Israel started the war I suppose.

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22198 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:28 am to
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Iran is about 10,000 Gaza's. Would cost 10 trillion to do the same damage there.
all you have to do is destroy their water infrastructure and the place will tear itself apart in less than a week. They can barely provide themselves with water as it is
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5321 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:28 am to
As long as the US keeps killing IRGC and Israel keeps exterminating Hamas, everything will be great.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37295 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:37 am to
I can’t say that because I’ve heard and factored in a more expanded range of factors and possibilities that disagree with your assessment, so I can’t straight faced say something I don’t believe to be true and accurate. A sampling of the aforementioned alternative scenarios include the relatively long and tattered history of relations between the two countries. I must admit that I wasn’t necessarily of proper age to understand what was going on during the Iranian hostage crisis. Note again, the IRANIAN hostage crises, and the period of crisis following for a while.

Then, as history tells, there were the horrific terror attacks around the area targeting America’s heroic and selfless warriors, Beirut etc, with unspeakable results. Obviously the direct connection to Iran and its in-house terror proxy armies was irrefutably established long ago.

Ahh yes then we move forward into the period of America’s war on terror period, throughout which Iran and more directly had a constant hand in once again targeting American personnel with oftentimes, again, unspeakable results. Or atrocities, let’s call them. Oh yeah, Soleimani was the orchestrator of the “program” mentioned hereinabove…..hence Trump terminating his gay, incestuous arse. They may have found an arm, two toes, a wing and a thigh, the rest was a pink cloud.

Anyhow, if that ain’t enough to chew on, perhaps to challenge your own dug in positions, then it wouldn’t or doesn’t make sense to do anything further.
This post was edited on 7/19/26 at 12:40 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:41 am to
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Note again, the IRANIAN hostage crises, and the period of crisis following for a while.

No serious person thinks this war started because of the Iranian hostage crisis during the Carter administation.

The United States and Israel started this war by attacking Iran. You can listen to Lee Greenwood and tell yourself whatever comfortable delusions you want. It won't change the facts.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37295 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:45 am to
I’m pretty sure mine’s more plausible than Trump’s gone off and gotten us into a forever war.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175325 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 12:47 am to
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I’m pretty sure mine’s more plausible than Trump’s gone off and gotten us into a forever war.

I don't know that it will be a forever war. But he certainly got us into whatever this is.
Posted by TideSaint
God's country
Member since Sep 2008
85003 posts
Posted on 7/19/26 at 1:00 am to
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I don't know that it will be a forever war


Drop a nuke and it won't be one.

They'll cave within the hour.

But pussies like you will sky scream because our military did what was necessary to bring an adversary in line.
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