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re: 2 km deep cylindrical shock pillars found below pyramids

Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Placing a bunch of blocks with cranes is doable but the precision is supposedly the issue.

Precision with what?block placement?
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:50 pm to
There are sites all over the world that suggest very advanced civilizations were here long before we ever imagine. The pyramids could be 50,000 years old just as easy, or easier, than they could be 5,000.
Posted by TyOconner
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:51 pm to
Placement, angles of the bricks themselves (sides), the smoothness, the gaps between them, etc. I’m not saying it couldn’t be done but it would take people with hand tools tightening them up once they’re in place and you’re talking about absurd man hours. Even then the theory is that the craftsmanship still might not be as tight as what’s on the pyramids.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:52 pm to
What has always fascinated me is that they are 4,500 years old. How long does it take an Egyptian society to be able to build such a thing and where is the history of all that slowly developing. It is said...
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It emerged from prehistoric Egypt around 3150 BC
So from prehistoric society in 500 years this was done?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:52 pm to
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I won't believe the 3D models were rendered properly and illustrating what is really underneath the pyramids until someone goes down there and confirms the structures. Has that been done?

I see your point, but no

I don't see anyone signing off on a vertical excavation 2KM deep below the heaviest constructed structures on earth.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:53 pm to
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I don’t think there’s actually been any plausible theories about how they were built.


Lots of people and mechanical advantage.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:54 pm to
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There are much better examples of massive, heavy objects in FAR less developed civilizations to discuss.


Truth

Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:54 pm to
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you’re talking about absurd man hours.


People were not wasting time on their iPhones back then.
Posted by TyOconner
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:55 pm to
No indeed. Those timelines are way off. Humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years and the pyramids are likely tens of thousands of years old. The old idea that they were built 3-6,000 years ago has been thoroughly debunked. The main theory now is that the Egyptians didn’t build the pyramids, a civilization before them did and then the Egyptians formed a city around them.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:56 pm to
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Simply put, human beings of that time, did not have the ability to go build infrastructure TWO MILES below the Earth's surface.
This is true if you only consider the single-timeline, hunter-gatherer narrative.
If you consider a Younger Dryas event (or some other civilization reset), it is entirely possible to have reached a technology beyond hunter-gatherer in the past. Especially with the potential for the pyramids being a lot older than is currently believed (water erosion on the sphinx, etc).

I've believed for quite some time that the pyramids were some kind of ancient Wardenclyffe tower. To be true, they would have to have rods firmly connected to the bedrock or water table. If this new claim is true, it all but confirms it for me. You'd also need an insulator over the majority of it and a conductor at the capstone, but I believe these have already been accepted as having existed.

Essentially, it forms a SWER for power transmission (Single-Wire Earth Return). And either through Piezoelectricity or Atmospheric voltage gradient (or both), would generate wireless electricity over great distances.

There are many, many things about Giza that we still don't understand and can't explain. So, if even with modern technology, we could not recreate them today....... isn't it possible that it wasn't just some pre-historic humans that ate meat, discovered fire, and worked on a pyramid for 2,000 years just because?
Is it not possible that we may have been much more advanced in the past than we give ourselves credit for?

A few examples:
- High speed drilling
- Precision manufacturing aligning almost perfectly as a geometric scale model for the earth
- Construction techniques to transport and erect the structures
- Chemistry: sulfuric acid in southern shaft and salt mixture in the northern shaft,
- Lack of soot in the corridors
- Unfinished stones above King's chamber tuned precisely to F#, with the coffer tuned to A (the minor 3rd)
- Purpose of subterranean chamber
Posted by TyOconner
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:56 pm to
The mechanical advantage part for sure. Thing is we have no idea what that was, because it doesn’t seem to be anything we have or can even think up.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:57 pm to
Would make since and help explain Egypts extreme restrictions on access and security. They would never admit they didn't build them due to national pride.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:57 pm to
the whole video is designed to get you to click on it and visit their podcasts and related horseshite

SAR is only good for day/night views of a scene and has no use for penetrating the ground surface. GPR is only good for short distances and it isn't remote sensing really, you have to walk on the surface studied with the equipment. Not from satellites lol.

It's gross that people are willing to lie to you to get your attention.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:58 pm to
Ever heard a politician
Posted by The Eric
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 1:59 pm to
It’s time to take the pyramids apart.

Don’t care that it’s some historic archaeological discovery. Take that bad boy apart and find all the things.
Posted by TyOconner
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:00 pm to
Exactly. In Baalbeck there are huge stones that seem to have been placed long before the Roman’s arrived and then they built on top of them. Theory is that the Roman’s would never admit to the people they just conquered that those people’s ancestors could do something the Roman’s couldn't.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:01 pm to
True. The bullshite that is spewed now is criminal. People are willing to believe any old thing now. It's depressing.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:01 pm to
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Placement, angles of the bricks themselves (sides), the smoothness, the gaps between them, etc

Do we also get as much as the pyramids to weather down the blocks and smooth them out from. A steady Saharan sand blast everyday does wonders for smoothness
Posted by TyOconner
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:05 pm to
Yep you’re right about that but you still have to account for all the other impressive features of their construction. The theory is that we may or may not be able to replicate it but we would absolutely struggle.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 2:10 pm to
The average pyramid blocs size is 5,000 pounds (or 2268 kg). Some are as big as 160,000 pounds.

Let's now do an example for an average block.

The static friction between the ground and the block is 0.7 worst case. The force to slide an average block across the ground would be (0.7)(2268)(9.81) where 9.81 is g. That's 15,574 newtons. Convert newtons to pounds>>>>3500 pounds of force parallel with the ground to get the block to start sliding.

Tie a rope round an average block and 30 to 40 average dudes could easily slide the block across the ground.

Same approach to lifting but using levers and wedges.

More dudes to slide and lift the bigger blocks.

It's slow and laborious work but it can be done and it's not that mysterious.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 2:13 pm
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