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re: 169 Dead, 644 Hospitalized in Illinois Breakthrough COVID Cases

Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78346 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:19 pm to
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First you are starting off with not even knowing how many people actually died FROM Covid. Because you don't know that figure, you CAN NOT know how effective the vaccine is.


Do you want to apply that same logic to the 169 vaccinated deaths who are being counted?

Because 169 deaths not caused by Covid but just testing positive for it out of 6 million people for a few months would be pretty
Impressive
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14927 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

he risk of getting severe CCP virus is very small no matter how you look at it.


No doubt.

But again, that study is specifically for ages 65 and up, wherein the risk is not quite as small.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3511 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:09 pm to
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Thread title numbers are meaningless without the numbers for the unvaccinated.



Re-posted for emphasis!

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25851 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:16 pm to
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But again, that study is specifically for ages 65 and up, wherein the risk is not quite as small.

It’s not a very good study. It was a start, but to draw sweeping conclusions from it based on their small sample size, which only included 19 fully vaccinated people, is a bit premature.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:39 pm to
And yet having Lollapalooza in Chicago, ILLINOIS wasn't a problem.




Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21434 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 5:49 pm to
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or complications after being fully vaccinated.


So some of these are deaths from the vaccine itself. Interesting.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1117 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 5:56 pm to
About half of the number due to violence in Chicado
Posted by BBQSooner
Member since Jul 2021
296 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:16 pm to
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More than 160 people have died and nearly 650


Otherwise known as a Tuesday in South Chicago
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14633 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 6:22 pm to
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None of this data you share means anything without also showing the number of unvaccinated deaths and hospitalizations during the same time frame.


While you are correct from a statistical correlation standpoint....you are very wrong from a "this is not how they sold us on this shite" standpoint. NOT AT ALL HOW THEY SOLD IT.
This will continue because this is not a vaccine....not by any definition.
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1169 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 7:34 pm to
Considering this Virus is now being carried by wildlife and domesticated animals, you are not going to vaccinate your way out of it. Herd immunity likely is best way.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20591 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 7:56 pm to
How can it be a unicorn when it has happened multiple times? Unicorns never happen
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42373 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 8:02 pm to
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Where does anyone get the idea that any vaccine works 100% of the time?


Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12629 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:50 pm to
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Herd immunity likely is best way.

Herd immunity through actual infection is the only way.
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