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15 year anniversary of Extortion 17 deaths

Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:04 am
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
23746 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:04 am
Did Jug Ears and Hillary set them up?

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Thursday, August 6, 2026, marks the 15th anniversary of Extortion 17—the single greatest loss of American military life in one incident during the entire Afghanistan War. On that dark night in 2011, a CH-47 Chinook helicopter, call sign Extortion 17, was shot down in Afghanistan’s Tangi Valley. All 30 Americans aboard perished, along with a military working dog.

Among the dead were 17 Navy SEALs (including members of SEAL Team Six/DEVGRU’s Gold Squadron), Naval Special Warfare support personnel, Army crew, and Air Force special tactics airmen. It remains the deadliest day in the history of Naval Special Warfare.

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The “official” narrative holds that Extortion 17 was a tragic but essentially unlucky hit by enemy fighters with an RPG while the aircraft approached a landing zone to insert an immediate reaction force. Military investigations, including the Colt Report, concluded the planning and execution were sound and that chance played the decisive role.

Families of the fallen and those who have examined the record—including longtime Cowboy Logic guests—have raised pointed concerns that have never been fully resolved to their satisfaction.

This was a mission that should never have taken place in the form it did. The SEALs were launched as a Quick Reaction Force ostensibly to support or assist Army Rangers who were portrayed as pinned down or in a bad situation with the Taliban. That was not the case. The Rangers had secured their objective and were not requesting rescue or reinforcement of that nature. Records and accounts show the Rangers were not in retreat and did not call for the kind of QRF that was assembled. The decision to send the elite force anyway—crowded onto a single conventional Chinook—rare and unnecessary under the circumstances on the ground.

Retired Air Force Captain Joni Marquez was the fire control officer on the AC-130H gunship providing overwatch that night—“eyes in the sky.” In the Cowboy Logic interview and earlier accounts, she described watching surviving enemy fighters after Rangers engaged a group of insurgents. She and her crew requested permission to engage those remaining threats multiple times. Under the restrictive Obama-era Rules of Engagement, they were denied. Marquez has stated that those rules effectively prevented her crew from doing what they knew needed to be done, and that the denial sealed the fate of Extortion 17.

Former Navy JAG officer and author Don Brown, whose book Call Sign Extortion 17 dissects the official record, has long argued that the Colt Report reveals either gross negligence or a whitewash. Among the issues he has highlighted: the decision to fly a large contingent of elite operators on a single conventional National Guard Chinook rather than special operations aircraft; the absence of pre-assault fire to suppress threats around the landing zone; conflicting and shifting official accounts regarding the black box and cockpit voice recorder; and broader evidence discrepancies that families and independent reviewers say were never adequately addressed.

Billy and Karen Vaughn, parents of SOC Aaron Vaughn, have spent years seeking answers. In prior Cowboy Logic interviews and their own accounts, they have detailed the restrictive counterinsurgency Rules of Engagement that prioritized “winning hearts and minds” over force protection—explicitly limiting pre-assault fires even in an active firefight.

They have questioned why a conventional airframe was used for a high-risk special operations insertion, why the mission appeared rushed, and why families faced resistance and incomplete information when they pressed for clarity after the crash.

The Vaughns and others have also pointed to the public outing of SEAL Team 6 after the bin Laden raid roughly 90 days earlier. Media leaks to outlets including the New York Times and Washington Post, followed by then-Vice President Joe Biden’s public acknowledgment of the SEALs’ role at a high-profile event, violated long-standing special operations protocol for protecting the identities of those who carry out high-value missions.

A bullseye was placed on the backs of SEAL Team 6. Immediately afterward, Aaron Vaughn called his mother. Karen Vaughn has recounted that his tone was extremely serious: he told her to wipe her social media clean of any reference to him or his buddies because there was chatter and all of their lives—including hers—were possibly in danger. Ninety-three days later, he and his teammates were dead. The Vaughns and others have described this sequence as creating the conditions for payback.

Adding further insult, at the ramp ceremony at Bagram Air Base as the flag-draped caskets of the fallen prepared for their final flight home, a Muslim imam was allowed to offer a prayer. When the Vaughns obtained a translation of his Arabic words, it included language declaring that “the companions of the fire, the sinners and the infidels who are fodder for hell fire are not equal with the companions of heaven. The companions of heaven, Muslims are the winners.” The prayer damned the fallen American warriors as infidels destined for hellfire while proclaiming Muslims the winners and mocking the God of Moses. Billy Vaughn has called it a desecration of the bodies of American heroes by their own military’s decision to permit it.

These concerns center on a mission that was not required as framed, rules that constrained the ability of supporting aircraft to neutralize known threats, the choice of aircraft and force package, the public exposure of SEAL Team 6 that placed a target on their backs, an investigation that left families with more questions than answers, and the final indignity of the prayer over their caskets. Fifteen years later, the single largest loss of American life in the Afghanistan War still carries unresolved issues about how risk was managed and whether political constraints and decisions cost American lives.

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Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
40503 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:06 am to
We shud get the basterds.

/thred
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 9:07 am
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
3787 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:15 am to
Curious what aircraft they preferred? The better question is why there wasn’t escorts (AH64) other than an AC130.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65489 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Curious what aircraft they preferred?


I imagine multiple blackhawks. Anyone who has ever been on a Chinook can attest to the power of it and the monumental POS that it is. But the Teams are used to flying these helos and do so pretty consistently. Common sense to me would have been to fly Apache's with the team but don't underestimate the power of that AC130. It's a bad piece of machinery.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
23746 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:22 am to
They use Chinooks, but usually with their own pilots, not NG assets.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25120 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:28 am to
The fishiest part of that whole thing is a National Guard air crew flying them in. Dev gru in particular almost always request and then have the request granted to have the 160th fly them in. They work so closely together so often guys in each unit are on first name basis.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
2784 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:32 am to
This was the team that took out OBL? Later claims it really wasn't him
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
68226 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:56 am to
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Later claims it really wasn't him
A person would have to be a monumental dumbass to believe the SEALs did NOT kill OBL.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
35599 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:19 am to
quote:

This was the team that took out OBL? Later claims it really wasn't him


Negative red squadron “the tribe” got bin Laden.

This was gold squadron known as “lions”

Reeves and Kelsal(OIC on mission), they grew up together in Shreveport and were hs team mates.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71054 posts
Posted on 8/6/26 at 10:45 am to
They were murdered purposely by our government.
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