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re: 111,000+ Vaccine Breakthrough Cases Identified in US
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:14 pm to Taxing Authority
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:14 pm to Taxing Authority
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Is it because you don't want to know?
Not quite.
They don't want YOU to know.
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:16 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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"Randomized clinical trials of vaccines that have received an EUA in the United States showed efficacy of 94%–95% in preventing COVID-19–associated illness (4,5)." Got Google?
quote:Some of it just does not exist. The clinical trials took people with no known prior infection, checked to make sure they didn’t already have antibodies, vaxxed them and sent them back into normal life. 94%-95% did not come down with symptomatic illness. They measured antibodies and that’s it. They have zero idea how many people in the trial were actually exposed.
WHERE IS THE RAW DATA?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:19 pm to OGM
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Some of it just does not exist. The clinical trials took people with no known prior infection, checked to make sure they didn’t already have antibodies, vaxxed them and sent them back into normal life. 94%-95% did not come down with symptomatic illness. They measured antibodies and that’s it. They have zero idea how many people in the trial were actually exposed.
Exactly, all they have is old data, where the change of reinfections was minimal, and there was no new strains. The changes of the data being close is fine in that situation... less chance of infections, but still of note. Even if they tested for antibodies, its never going to be 100%.
Now, many many months later, greater chance of reinfections, real world conditions, and new strains.
I'm not saying the original data was clean, I actually don't even care what it was. But at some point someone needs to address the people with natural protections.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 9:31 pm to DMAN1968
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They don't want YOU to know.
It getting harder not be a conspiracy theorist. I'm trying though. It would seem one of the things that has people hesitant to take the vaccine is they feel like it hasn't been studied enough. Yet here we are... the CDC said "meh, we don't need to track breakthrough infections, we good."
That doesn't inspire confidence.
And worse... it disarms any logical arument.
AVCT: "How do you know it works?"
CDC: "Because we stopped counting, now shut up and take it".
The saying in business is "what gets measured gets managed properly". Intentional ignorance should make us all raise questions.
Tell me again why government should be running all of healthcare?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:38 pm to thingshavechanged
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And, the vaccinated are unlikely to be hospitalized or die.
Where is the credible evidence this is true? Vaxxed or unvaxxed can die from this. Most will live.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:47 pm to frequent flyer
quote:This does not feel like anywhere close to 90% effectiveness. More like 50% personally.
100 million doses at about 90% effectiveness. So about 10 million are likely vulnerable.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:48 pm to obdobd918
Unless they break down the data further it's of no or limited use. Example,
There are virtually no deaths from covid patients that have been reinfected.
Lol
They're simply not providing useful data.
There are virtually no deaths from covid patients that have been reinfected.
Lol
They're simply not providing useful data.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 10:57 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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111,000+ vaccine breakthrough cases
As of yesterday there were roughly 164,000,000 fully vaccinated people in the USA. 111,000 cases out of 164,000,000 means that only 0.68% of vaccinated people have been diagnosed with covid. That means over 99.3% of vaccinated people have not been diagnosed with covid. So the vaccine works.
FWIW, feel free to check my math because I didn’t on my phone and I could have made a typo because I am on my third whiskey drank.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:04 pm to WeeWee
350m people drank water as a preventive measure for covid, what's the effective rate? Lol
To be honest, I have no idea what that is even suppose to be. People don't get infected at the same time.
To be honest, I have no idea what that is even suppose to be. People don't get infected at the same time.
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:07 pm to WeeWee
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only 0.68% of vaccinated people have been diagnosed with covid.
The CDC stopped keeping fricking track of vaccinated that were positive with covid...unless hospitalized.
So we have to rely on this:
quote:
According to data Bloomberg collected from 35 states
What are the real numbers?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:10 pm to GhostOfFreedom
It's absolutely fascinating watching people who can't wrap their heads around statistical realities. People who otherwise have a firm grasp of basic math suddenly lose all ability to comprehend when you apply it to real world scenarios and involve large numbers of people.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:12 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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350m people drank water as a preventive measure
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:13 pm to WeeWee
Lol nice one.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:13 pm to WeeWee
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So the vaccine works.
The vaccine may work fine but there’s no f’n way anybody can draw conclusions one way or the other from the horseshite data public health reports out.
There is no credible evidence that proves what you suggest is true.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 11:24 pm to David_DJS
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The vaccine may work fine but there’s no f’n way anybody can draw conclusions one way or the other from the horse shite data public health reports out.
There is no credible evidence that proves what you suggest is true.
I'm eagerly awaiting all this fine detailed data, but I know it will never come.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 12:44 am to WeeWee
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As of yesterday there were roughly 164,000,000 fully vaccinated people in the USA. 111,000 cases out of 164,000,000 means that only 0.68% of vaccinated people have been diagnosed with covid. That means over 99.3% of vaccinated people have not been diagnosed with covid. So the vaccine works.
According to a CDC internal document obtain by the Washington Post, the CDC estimates that 35,000 vaccinated people a week in the US are having symptomatic breakthrough infections.
It appears the breakthrough cases have accelerated due to the Delta Variant and that number is a lot higher now. This is the reason the CDC changed the mask guideline for vaccinated people and said “the war has changed”.
Washington Post Article where the CDC internal document is discussed: Link
quote:
A CDC internal document obtained by The Washington Post estimated that 35,000 vaccinated people a week in the United States are having symptomatic breakthrough infections, out of a vaccinated population of more than 162 million.
Washington Post Article on CDC internal document: ‘The war has changed’: CDC Internal document urges new messaging
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 2:37 am
Posted on 7/31/21 at 1:38 am to GhostOfFreedom
You can question the vaccine….I don’t have a problem with it….BUT to rely on case numbers for your argument just furthers the stupid “case-demic”….I bet a lot of those 111,000 are false positives.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:33 am to GhostOfFreedom
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the CDC stopped collecting data on breakthrough cases in May
Why would the CDC stop collecting data? Are we not going to trust the science? Maybe the data won’t support their talking points..
Posted on 7/31/21 at 6:15 am to LSU316
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.I bet a lot of those 111,000 are false positives.
I bet there are a lot more cases than that.
If only we had a way to monitor and show those numbers...
Oh wait.
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:12 am to thingshavechanged
It’s gullible idiots like you that keep people going back to get these kill shots
I hope they hang you when truth about these kill shots comes out. You’re part of the conspiracy and can go to hell
You’re sources are Pfizer, Moderna, FDA and CDC??? Ask your dumb arse if they should be objective with all they stand to gain??? You can’t be as stupid as you, but unfortunately, you are!
Stfu and go play in the busy streets
I hope they hang you when truth about these kill shots comes out. You’re part of the conspiracy and can go to hell
You’re sources are Pfizer, Moderna, FDA and CDC??? Ask your dumb arse if they should be objective with all they stand to gain??? You can’t be as stupid as you, but unfortunately, you are!
Stfu and go play in the busy streets
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