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re: 100 years from now, when people look back on this particular moment in history

Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:10 am to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
7323 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:10 am to
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You think that’s what’s causing our trillions in debt?? Are we nation building again? Your display of ignorance never disappoints.


You don’t think wars in the Middle East have contributed to the national debt very directly and also indirectly?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13462 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:18 am to
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presidents do not control the purse.


They have to sign the bills into law or they can veto them.

So, yeah, they do.

Trump actually has the distinction of having the most recent bill that he vetoed overridden by Congress in 2020. That doesn't happen often. It was a spending bill.

But pretty much every POTUS since Nixon has vetoed some budget bill or other, 'cept maybe Biden. When Clinton was in office he used a lot of line-item vetoes, but those aren't legal anymore.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:21 am to
We won’t be able to look back in 100 years because America will be India 2.0 due to trumps h1bs
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10079 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:24 am to
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zero. 0000000000. presidents do not control the purse. do you people not get this fact? Congress controls the money. we can judge everybody's intelligence with this point right here. you are not smart if you say or imply a president is responsible for national debt.


Cool. So why, exactly, did Trump state in 2016 “give me 8 years and I not only will erase the deficit, I will erase the debt”

Do you people not understand that words matter?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71094 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:24 am to
If we aren't talking about Trump being a positive turning point for this country 100 years from now, it means we're cooked and probably were 75 years ago.
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
12277 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:33 am to
As a guy with big balls that pulled the curtain back but ultimately did absolutely nothing long term to stop the rape of our country
Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1704 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:09 am to
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