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re: 100 dead, 1000 missing & probably dead in Maui wildfires. Biden: "no comment".

Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:26 am to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21227 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:26 am to
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I agree... I am no wildfire expert but when you see only houses burned and trees are not touched... Very strange...


Wtf? Is that video real? That doesn't make any sense. How did the fire move without burning tress?
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70159 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:28 am to
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My theory is these are topical trees and do not have high oil content like evergreen pines that are flammable when green.


Explain in the video how the houses are burnt to the ground, yet smaller structures nearby don't even have minor damage?

I am not suggesting foul play, it just looks very odd
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 9:29 am
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87456 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:28 am to
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President Biden offered a stony-hearted “no comment” Sunday when asked about the mounting death toll in the catastrophic Maui wildfire – the deadliest US wildfire in more than a century – after sunning himself on a beach near his Delaware home.


The bastard doesn’t have a soul. He sold it long before the dementia ate away at his brain.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35684 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:29 am to
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I thought the place was rainy and super humid.

The leeward sides of the islands can be pretty dry, and are basically covered in non-native grasslands that replaced the old plantations.

The southwestern part of Maui where Lahaina is can appear indistinguishable from New Mexico or Utah during the dry seasons.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4857 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:29 am to
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Another wildfire in Canada that all the fires started at the same time.

And? There are wildfires all over the place every summer. And it is way worse when it is hot as shite. Go to the National Interagency Fire Center. There are currently wild fires all over the place and that map is only the US. Alaska even has a crapload of them at the moment.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:30 am to
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Maui and Kaui are some of the wettest places on earth. Lush Tropical paradise for a reason


The south side of these islands are very dry. I've seen it first hand.







From a google earth image it is easy to see what parts of the island gets rain and what part doesn't.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:31 am to
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Explain in the video how the houses are burnt to the ground, yet smaller structures nearby don't even have minor damage?

I am not suggesting foul play, it just looks very odd


Apparently that video is from California.

Anyway, I would not rule out arson in some cases.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6360 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:31 am to
Trump boasted he had the tallest building in lower Manhatten
after 9/11. These comments should disqualify both of them
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35684 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:32 am to
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Maui and Kaui are some of the wettest places on earth.

Parts of them, sure. Not the whole island of Maui. If you think the whole island is lush, tropical rainforest, you've never been there.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93172 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:32 am to
Its been like that for over 40yrs
Thats basically dirt

Also this summer had plenty of rain. I lived in HI and have any clients there it doesnt add up

Kai Lenny (big wave surfing legend) said they arent letting him bring supplies to the ppl

He went on a pr spree and then they changed course

quote:

you've never been there.


This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4857 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:34 am to
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Maui and Kaui are some of the wettest places on earth. Lush Tropical paradise for a reason

Look at the precipitation map for for June and July for that spot (and most of Hawaii). All the low lying areas are getting way less rain than normal. About half as much. And most of the rain the Hawaiian islands get is at higher altitudes.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116690 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:34 am to
He actually did make one comment I heard on a radio clip. He said he was gonna send them a bunch of money.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56860 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:35 am to
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Explain in the video how the houses are burnt to the ground, yet smaller structures nearby don't even have minor damage?



For starters, that video is not of hawaii, it's of california.

There is a metric ton of bullshite being spread on social media about the fires. You are helping no one by spreading the conspiracy theories. There is plenty of legitimate failures to address without going to these retard levels of conspiracy.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:36 am to
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Also this summer had plenty of rain. I lived in HI and have any clients there it doesnt add up


If the leeward side of the island received a lot of rain this is a perfect setup for future wildfires. The rain will trigger growth of especially shrubs and as the weather patterns gets back to normal months later the shrubs will die, dry out and become perfect fuel for wildfires.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 9:38 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295512 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:37 am to
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Maui and Kaui are some of the wettest places on earth.

Parts of them, sure


Yep, has a windward and leeward side. Leeward is dry.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4621 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:39 am to
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proper forestry wasn’t taking place


Liberals. Same source with Western wildfires. Tree Huggers refuse to allow them to remove dead stuff which only fuels these fires.

However, in Maui, the prices of real estate are so costly, everything is built on top of each other.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36544 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:40 am to
They got a lot of oak trees and evergreens in Hawaii?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:41 am to
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park is certainly in question but proper forestry


All that was needed was to cut a fire break barrier between the dead brushlands and the town. A few bushhogs could have done the job.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103112 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:42 am to
Someone would have declared the mosquito to be an endangered species to block destruction of the habitat.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46672 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:42 am to
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Are wild fires unusual for Hawaii? I thought the place was rainy and super humid.


Lahaina is one of the drier parts of Maui, as Haleakala eats up all the moisture on the East side of the island and the Iao Valley eats it up more moisture just east (over the mountain) of Lahaina.
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