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Question for Project Managers
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:12 am
A few friends and I will be graduating in construction management this December. We all have offers in the 50-60 thousand range. We will all be going into commercial. Our questions are 1) How long did it take you to be promoted to a Project Manager? How much of an increase in salary was it from a project engineer to an assistant project manager to being a project manager? Obviously a lot of this depends on location. We will all be in baton rouge.
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Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:17 am to unotiger21
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graduating in construction management
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project engineer
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:17 am to unotiger21
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1) How long did it take you to be promoted to a Project Manager?
If you're starting as a field/project engineer, probably between 3-5 yrs. Maybe sooner, maybe longer depending on the size of the firm.
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How much of an increase in salary was it from a project engineer to an assistant project manager to being a project manager?
You can expect around 20-40% from a engineer to a PM position. APM obviously slightly lower bump
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 9:20 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:18 am to C
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graduating in construction management
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project engineer
More paper pusher, less engineer (not a PE anyways)
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:24 am to jamboybarry
quote:Worth its weight in unobtainium.
PE
As many of you know, I work in recruiting and occasionally, I wander over to the engineering side and there's firms that will turn down a dude with 20 years experience doing exactly what they're looking for and doesn't have (never needed) a PE and they'll be like, "We'll be in touch"
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:26 am to unotiger21
Unless you have a lot of experience or are just outrageously good, it takes 3-5 years for my company. Truthfully the engineers we hire tend to be on the low side, cm guys the high side.
For salary, that just depends on the person and their skills. Usually yiu can expect a 10-12k bump plus vehicle allowance and gas card.
For salary, that just depends on the person and their skills. Usually yiu can expect a 10-12k bump plus vehicle allowance and gas card.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:26 am to yankeeundercover
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Worth its weight in unobtainium.
If you're working for a GC as a PM, it's basically worthless. CCM is much more sought after
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:27 am to jamboybarry
Totally depends on the company. Don’t get hung up on the title. I’ve seen some companies where PM was equal to a division manager or higher in another and some where a PM was a glorified paper pushing clerk.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:29 am to jamboybarry
quote:I'm talking about Structural/Civil/Mechanical/etc
If you're working for a GC as a PM
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:35 am to yankeeundercover
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I'm talking about Structural/Civil/Mechanical/etc
Well yeah, obviously anyone without a stamp will be pretty useless to an engineering shop. Some detailers do alright w/o the PE but that wasn't the point of the thread.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:35 am to lsu777
Is it true that if your performance is great you recieve roughly a 4 % increase in pay per year? That's what one company told me at least.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:37 am to unotiger21
At our company you start at $50k-$55k out of college and make around $70k-$75k when you become a PM after about 5-7 years of experience. The good PMs with a lot of experience make much more than that at our company.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 9:38 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:38 am to unotiger21
That's pretty standard for annual merit increases. Some firms also do bonus structures for PM's/Project Executives
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:39 am to unotiger21
Depends on the company. My company was giving 5% but the last year was not a good year for the company as a whole. My division did fine but others lost a ton of money. So no raises for anybody and overhead was cut all over the company, including my branch manager. So just depends on the company and financials.
I will say we can get up to a 8% bonus if our company, division and branch all meet goal.less if we fall just short.
I will say we can get up to a 8% bonus if our company, division and branch all meet goal.less if we fall just short.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:41 am to lsu777
Our is around 6% or so. Up to 10% in good years.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:45 am to jamboybarry
CM people shouldn't EVER associate their roles with the term "Engineer".
Technically, it is illegal to refer to yourself as an "Engineer" without having an active P.E. license. LAPELS (and any other state board)actually has the legal right to sanction individuals who do. This goes for EITs/EIs as well. Until you pass the exam and are issued a lic. number, its a huge no-no.
While I do respect CM grads, you don't deserve to affiliate yourself with the engineering term because you didn't follow a course load anywhere close to what the CEs do.
Technically, it is illegal to refer to yourself as an "Engineer" without having an active P.E. license. LAPELS (and any other state board)actually has the legal right to sanction individuals who do. This goes for EITs/EIs as well. Until you pass the exam and are issued a lic. number, its a huge no-no.
While I do respect CM grads, you don't deserve to affiliate yourself with the engineering term because you didn't follow a course load anywhere close to what the CEs do.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 9:47 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:47 am to unotiger21
Depends on how good you are. 3-4 years is a good estimate. You basically spend the first 2 years learning everything you didn't in school. You won't stay in BR though. Being commercial construction, you'll end up moving somewhere else like Texas for more $$ and a promotion.
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:48 am to CharlesLSU
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CM people shouldn't EVER associate their roles with the term "Engineer". Technically, it is illegal to refer to yourself as an "Engineer" without having an active P.E. license. LAPELS actually has the legal right to sanction individuals who do. While I do respect CM grads, you don't deserve to affiliate yourself with the engineering term because you didn't follow a course load anywhere close to what the CEs do.
You do realize most all GC/CM firms who hire new grads label that position "Field Engineer" or "Project Engineer"?
eta: at least in DC/VA/MD. Also you can get a PE without having an engineering degree
It's only illegal to refer to yourself as a "Professional Engineer" or PE if you are not licensed which everyone in the industry understands the difference.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:48 am to CharlesLSU
God you sound like a pussy.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 9:54 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 9:49 am to CharlesLSU
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Technically, it is illegal to refer to yourself as an "Engineer" without having an active P.E. license.
I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering. I'm an engineer. I don't need no stinking PE board to tell me that.
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