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re: What's the OB's Thoughts on Stricter Background Check Laws?

Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1830 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:23 pm to
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Stricter Background Check Laws?

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I'm not trying to make a political debate

You just did.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
877 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:23 pm to
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No. I think it could possibly stop someone. Do you think someone could go in a school and kill a bunch of teachers and kids with a baseball bat and knife?


Yep.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/tag/mass-stabbing

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/canada-stabbing-saskatchewan-deaths/

And there are many other mass killings that didn't use guns. Like I said get off your lazy arse and inform yourself.

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Where would I get that propaganda from? Just curious. Because I haven't listened to minute of CNN, MSNBC or any of the other democratic stations or any radio. None.


Yet in your opening post you reference a dumbass Democrat Mayor and then proceed to spout off Democrat talking points.

You obviously are easily swayed by Democrat talking points. Think about that.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
877 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:25 pm to
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Re-open mental hospitals.


Problem with this is the liberals think anyone who wants to own an Evil Black Rifle belongs in one of those institutions.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30023 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:34 pm to
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"Red Flag" laws.


Automatic show stopper for me. The criteria for taking people's guns away are whatever some anti-gun judge or bureaucrat says it is. And you know the progressive Left will eventually (if not immediately) set it so that the mere desire to own a firearm shows that you are mentally unstable.

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I don't fall under that catagory but I'm not sure they even go about figuring out who would be a danger but I feel like that could possibly help as well. It's temporary for an at risk person, not taking it from someone permanently.


bullshite. It will never be temporary. Even if the judge or panel member isn't outright anti-gun (let's face it, the only ones angling for those positions have an ax to grind), they will always hide behind "prudence" or "safety" just on the one in a million chance this law abiding citizen commits a violent act in the future. Also, "two weeks to flatten the curve" ring a bell? Temporary, my arse.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
19010 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:39 pm to
Here is a novel idea

1. Institutionalize those with severe mental health issues

2. Severe punishment for violent criminals. Eye for an eye type stuff. Bring back public execution.

3. Open carry in all places by law abiding citizens.

4. Parental accountability in the form of civil lawsuits when parental intervention could have prevented mass shootings. Be a parent and search your kids room and phone top to bottom from time to time.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:41 pm to
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As I stated earlier, there is not bigger threat to the health and safety of innocent people than radical unchecked governments.


I don’t want that either. Do you think one adjustment to a background check is radical unchecked governments? I personally don’t.

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If you're asking me if I would rather put my trust in to not harm me, my neighbors and community or the government, I will choose my neighbors 100/100 times


Trust in who? Spell check maybe but I’m sure I agree with you here.

Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
2149 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:45 pm to
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Do you think one adjustment to a background check is radical unchecked governments


I believe the more you infringe on the second amendment the more you enable a government to become radicalized, yes.

And you have yet to explain how an increased background check is a strict change that could’ve prevented this shooting.

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Trust in who?


My neighbors and community or the government

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Spell check maybe


Cute
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30044 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:45 pm to
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I am for banning Trannies and hoodrats from the 2A

Sooo, shall not be infringed upon doesn’t apply for them
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:46 pm to
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bullshite. It will never be temporary. Even if the judge or panel member isn't outright anti-gun (let's face it, the only ones angling for those positions have an ax to grind), they will always hide behind "prudence" or "safety" just on the one in a million chance this law abiding citizen commits a violent act in the future. Also, "two weeks to flatten the curve" ring a bell? Temporary, my arse


All fair points. Changed my thinking on that one.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:48 pm to
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My neighbors and community or the government


Got ya. I read that wrong. I agree with you.

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Cute


Yea I’m not trying to own you or make fun of your answer dude, I didn’t read your post right.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:12 pm to
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Yet in your opening post you reference a dumbass Democrat Mayor and then proceed to spout off Democrat talking points. You obviously are easily swayed by Democrat talking points. Think about that.


Of course it was of a democrat because you know, they’re the ones that want it. So I posted what they outlined. I’m buying into propaganda!!

Through discussion I have changed my thinking on two things and now partially agree with 1 of 5 things they would possibly propose. Maybe think on that if I’m easily swayed by democratic talking points.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
700 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:22 pm to
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Through discussion I have changed my thinking on two things and now partially agree with 1 of 5 things they would possibly propose. Maybe think on that if I’m easily swayed by democratic talking points.


Which 1 do you partially agree with?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34202 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Which 1 do you partially agree with?


Possible 1 day waiting period, 2 day MAX. Not sure what they would try and push but I’d say it was too much if it went over that.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
700 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:41 pm to
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Possible 1 day waiting period, 2 day MAX. Not sure what they would try and push but I’d say it was too much if it went over that.


You’ll have a hard time finding cases where that rule would make any difference. If someone wants to do evil, they will find a way.

There are times when someone is in danger and doesn’t own a gun, and needs one ASAP for protection.

Not to mention, it might not inconvenience you to wait, but I would have to drive to the FFL, undergo the background check, then drive back again days later to pick up my gun. That might be fine for you if you live close to an FFL but it’s a pain in the arse if you don’t.

We don’t need to make new laws that have no affect on gun violence.
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30005 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:41 pm to
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1. Waiting period and fingerprints in the check
2. "Red Flag" laws. Temporary, and preemptive protective orders that authorize the removal of firearms from individuals determined to be at risk for committing gun violence against others or themselves.


Both of these are predicated on the idea that we can trust our government not to misuse this information and political operatives not to redefine terms to allow for the stultifying application of the laws.


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3. Ban high capacity magazines


Almost pointless, TBH.

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4. Raise the purchase age to 21


Either a person is an adult at 21 with all-encompassing rights entailed therein or they should not be allowed to vote or serve in the military. It still baffles me that we are schizophrenic about this.

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5. Violence interruption programs


No idea what that is either


Plus the second amendment.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
877 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:53 pm to
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Of course it was of a democrat because you know, they’re the ones that want it. So I posted what they outlined. I’m buying into propaganda!!


You posted "common sense" gun control ideas straight from the Democratic party. Giving credence or entertaining their propaganda only pushes their agenda.You sure seem to be buying in to it if you didn't dismiss them out of hand. Anyone with any critical thinking skills would and wouldn't bother repeating them.Your parroting them is exactly what they want, it takes the conversation away from actual solutions like security,prosecuting criminals etc.

I notice you skip right over the gun death numbers and the existence of mass killings that didn't use guns.You act as though the weapon used matters. Would you feel better if they were ran over by a truck or burned to death? The instrument used by evil is irrelevant, you must stop the evil.

Either you are a dense, easily influenced person that is ignorant of the facts behind the gun control arguments or you are trolling(and probably have an alter you use on the Poli Board).

Oh and the ignorant comment is not a personal attack. You seem to be ignorant of the many methods used in mass killings and of gun killing statistics.

This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 6:21 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63882 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:00 pm to
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Possible 1 day waiting period, 2 day MAX.


Tell me which school shootings were committed by people who bought the gun that day, or the day before, or even the week before?

Every single one of them had the guns for weeks or months prior, or stole one. Nobody is going to the pawn shop, buying a gun, stopping by McDonalds, then raiding the local school to kill kids. The people that do this shite have planned long in advance, and waiting periods do jack shite for school shootings.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30696 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:04 pm to
Enforce the laws we have already. All those options are crap.

Quit forcing feeding tranny bullshite like it's normal. It's not normal. It's ok, people can get whatever medical remedy they want, but it's not normal.

This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 6:53 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63882 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:46 pm to
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Either a person is an adult at 21 with all-encompassing rights entailed therein or they should not be allowed to vote or serve in the military. It still baffles me that we are schizophrenic about this.



I would trade raising the voting age to 21 for semi-auto possession at 21, with a caveat if you join the military under the age of 21 then you get voting and semi-auto privileges at that time, just like military can drink under age 21 on base (or so i was told in the past).

I don't know what good it would do, because if someone is going to murder other people, they aren't going to stop and consider whether or not they are in violation of a gun regulation. It might help clean up some street crime, but that requires DA's who give a shite and prison space. Hell, without any new gun regulations at all, if you just had DA's who give a shite and space in prisons to put thugs instead of never-ending probation, gun violence would slow to a trickle.

Posted by FinkyStinger
Georgia
Member since Jan 2009
1859 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:08 pm to
What other rights guaranteed by the constitution do you have to jump through hoops like this to exercise?
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