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re: Whats the best defense round for a shotgun
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:15 am to El Josey Wales
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:15 am to El Josey Wales
Damn, and I thougjt getting shot with a non lethal bean bag hurt.
That makes me think back to a jackass stunt where j knoxville and a couple others were sent down range and a explosive was detonated and shot hundreds of solid rubber balls the size of marbles at them. Messed them up good.
That makes me think back to a jackass stunt where j knoxville and a couple others were sent down range and a explosive was detonated and shot hundreds of solid rubber balls the size of marbles at them. Messed them up good.
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Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:17 am to El Josey Wales
Dude shouldnt have been frickin around w/ that farmer's daughter!!!
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:20 am to Sid in Lakeshore
No shite.
I bet if we saw the rest of the pic, we would see a flat bill hat.
I bet if we saw the rest of the pic, we would see a flat bill hat.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 9:34 am to El Josey Wales
Modern houses have dry wall. Bucket shot of any size will penetrate the wall in both rooms, possibly killing someone in the adjoining room. I would use low brass 8's or 9's. Even at 10 yards, the damage to an intruder would be massive.~ Try a round into a piece of news paper. I think you will like what you see..
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:20 am to braindeadboxer
quote:
7 1/2 will kill anything you need at close quarters
Really or #6 if you just feel you need a little more - at household ranges would hit as a solid mass, anyway. Unless the target is armored or very fat, 1 shot to the torso should end active resistance. You don't have nearly the risk of penetrating interior walls and causing collateral damage, always a problem in an occupied home or apartment complex.
Buckshot would be most lethal, but really better suited for outdoor situations where you can clearly see your target and beyond, and where the engagement range starts to get to the edge of the platform - 15 meters or so with shot. Likewise, a slug gun should be able to deliver at 40 to 45 meters, but would be even more of a threat to penetrate and kill the kids or neighbors if fired indoors.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 10:22 am to Ace Midnight
We use door breaching rounds so it dont go through the walls and kill my kids
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:19 am to 4LSU2
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30 feet away does not pose an immediate threat
I think the court-proven distance is either 17 or 21 ft. Can't remember exactly. Nevertheless, in my house, if questioned, he was 8 ft and closing.
Although I think a 2 3/4" #6 from a 20 gauge will damn near cut someone's head off at 20 ft, I have no problem with anyone shooting 3" OO buck at an intruder. I keep some 3.5" hevishot coyote loads in my bedside gun. They'll kill anything that comes through the door.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:48 am to tenfoe
I've got #3 buckshot in mine right now.
Once any part of an intruder's body enters my house, it's getting shot. If anybody asks if I feared for my life, I'll tell them I'm the extra nervous type.
Once any part of an intruder's body enters my house, it's getting shot. If anybody asks if I feared for my life, I'll tell them I'm the extra nervous type.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 11:51 am to Teague
2 3/4 00 Buck.
And they wont have to ask, I am going up to every living thing and telling it that I feared for my life
And they wont have to ask, I am going up to every living thing and telling it that I feared for my life
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:00 pm to bdv1974
I have a couple 4s and some 000 under the mattress. They'd both work I figure
Posted on 2/23/13 at 12:10 pm to jimbeam
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:47 pm to bayoulsu82
3" magnum 00 buck in mine.
Those saying to use 7 or 8 shot don't understand. You run more risk of being sued if you shoot an intruder and he just ends up injured like that picture on page 1. If you really want to STOP a threat, use something with some arse behind it. Any variation of buckshot will do the job.
EDIT: Let me also clarify that I'm not saying you need to kill an intruder. But you definitely want to have the odds stacked in your favor. The chances of you STOPPING the threat, which is the ultimate goal, is much higher using buckshot and shooting center of mass.
At 20 feet or so, #7 or #8 won't carry nearly enough energy to do real damage. It will just pepper them. Watch this ballistic gel video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfilArIHlY
And then watch this one when you up the size of the BBs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqZaVQW7O4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbFLY9OIqPA
And to those who say you can't shoot someone in your home, I call BS. If they are in your home and you didn't ask them to be there, I would imagine they aren't just coming in to say "hey." They're up to no good. Even the "shooting them in the back" thing is overdrawn. If they are in your home unwelcomed, they are a threat. Who's to say the intruder can't run away while shooting with the gun behind his back? He is STILL a threat. The castle doctrine is enough to protect you. Just use your head and your best judgment.
Those saying to use 7 or 8 shot don't understand. You run more risk of being sued if you shoot an intruder and he just ends up injured like that picture on page 1. If you really want to STOP a threat, use something with some arse behind it. Any variation of buckshot will do the job.
EDIT: Let me also clarify that I'm not saying you need to kill an intruder. But you definitely want to have the odds stacked in your favor. The chances of you STOPPING the threat, which is the ultimate goal, is much higher using buckshot and shooting center of mass.
At 20 feet or so, #7 or #8 won't carry nearly enough energy to do real damage. It will just pepper them. Watch this ballistic gel video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfilArIHlY
And then watch this one when you up the size of the BBs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GqZaVQW7O4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbFLY9OIqPA
And to those who say you can't shoot someone in your home, I call BS. If they are in your home and you didn't ask them to be there, I would imagine they aren't just coming in to say "hey." They're up to no good. Even the "shooting them in the back" thing is overdrawn. If they are in your home unwelcomed, they are a threat. Who's to say the intruder can't run away while shooting with the gun behind his back? He is STILL a threat. The castle doctrine is enough to protect you. Just use your head and your best judgment.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:50 pm to bapple
quote:
3" magnum 00 buck in mine.
Never anything else for me.
This post was edited on 2/23/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:52 pm to JAB528
I keep 3" #4 turkeys in mine. 870 with 23" barrel.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 1:53 pm to JAB528
quote:
Never anything else for me.
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:06 pm to bdv1974
Like the 00 buckshot myself
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:07 pm to bdv1974
I use 4 shot or 5 shot, I like the damage done....
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:08 pm to Nascar Fan
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Like the 00 buckshot myself
Sometimes I get a little wild and load a 000buck just for fun
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:09 pm to Nodust
No such thing as "too dead"
Posted on 2/23/13 at 2:12 pm to JAB528
I'd rather overdead than under dead.
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