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re: What Personal Defense Weapon (think 9mm SMG) is everyone using?

Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:20 pm to
I mean, you can get one for $1,500. It's not SP5 retarded in the price.

As I've stated, I'm still waiting on the Springfield Kuna with the Strike Force brace. There's a bunch of "SMG" 9mm's in the market all in the $800-1500 range and I've got my wallet and mind stuck on that one.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 2:04 pm to
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I do admit they look cool as shite, but insofar as quality defense weapon for pricing I'd much prefer the Beretta M9, 92-F, or 92-X Centurion models chambered in 9mm. Simple sidearms rather than a firearm that looks like something one of the coke dealers carried on Miami Vice but still performs in semi-auto only without increasing effectiveness of a 9mm round.


9mm handguns are fine personal defense weapon. Most people that have a PCC will use it as a secondary weapon. I have a Smith and Wesson M&P 2.0 as my bedside primary. My Zenith ZP5k-S is my secondary. If I have to go outside both coming with me. I can put plenty of lead down range accurately at 100 yds with the Zenith.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:11 pm to
Good deal.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84447 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:16 pm to
Smith and Wesson Model 19 , .357 combat magnum; round is 158 gr.
Posted by goat365
Texas
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:32 am to
Stribog SP9A3...very accurate and reliable. Some have had issues with the mags hanging up, but I have never had a single issue.

As to people asking why anyone would want these kinds of firearms...two hands on the firearm and 9MM makes them practically zero recoil. You have the ability to fire as fast as you can pull the trigger with very little reset on the target. They are also easy to maneuver in hallways or doorways while being very close to firing position.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84447 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:15 pm to
Anyone have one of these by Auto Ordnance (makers of the the original "Tommy Guns") and still made in the US



The WWII vets would roll over in their grave for not getting it in 45 ACP but I have my eyes on the 9mm version for under $1,000

Out of stock across the board

LINK
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:56 am to
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JI Joe


Must be GI Joe's evil twin.
Posted by Landmass
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:03 am to
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Tommy Guns


I would donate my left nut to shoot a real FA Tommy.

Here's one on GunBroker. Starting bid is $29,800.
GunBroker
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:17 am to
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Where do you people live where you need rifles for home defense? Maybe move.

Handgun in the nightstand should be enough, you aren't fighting the military...


You're ignorant.

The thugs now are using AK and AR pistols, Glocks with switches or 30 mags.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:47 am to
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$1,382 here just to temp you even more
Dang.
Posted by MakersMark
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
652 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:20 am to


I have one similar to this. CMMG Banshee in 10MM, B&T suppressor, light, red dot.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84447 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 5:55 pm to


What do you have for the red dot?
Posted by cajun3gunner
Member since Mar 2023
151 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:00 pm to
Looks like a Aimpoint
Posted by nolaTiger24
Member since Sep 2008
1639 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:06 pm to
Man that Banshee is sweet, I’ve been looking at them as well because I have so many Glock mags to go with it.

Anybody have experience with Aero Precision EPC9? I dig the green upper and lower they have.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27968 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:13 pm to
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Anybody have experience with Aero Precision EPC9?


I have one and it shoots really well.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 5:54 am to
The main one I use is not being around a bunch of criminals involved in criminal activity....its worked for 59 years without incident and does for about 99.5% of Americans. There is a about a 1/2 of 1% (.5%) chance that the average American will be a victim of a violent crime in their life. The vast majority of those happen to unarmed people because the vast majority of people are unarmed. The vast majority of those victims survive that crime without long term consequences....had they used a gun to defend themselves the consequences could be far worse that the average. There is really no logical need to be armed at all times....there are irrational fears which drive people to be strapped at the Dairy Queen when they are craving a blizzard but its not a realistic need because there is no realistic threat to their well being, on average. Again, put your self or find yourself in dangerous situations and all that goes out the window but most people do neither of these things....
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84447 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:02 am to
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The main one I use is not being around a bunch of criminals involved in criminal activity....its worked for 59 years without incident and does for about 99.5% of Americans. There is a about a 1/2 of 1% (.5%) chance that the average American will be a victim of a violent crime in their life. The vast majority of those happen to unarmed people because the vast majority of people are unarmed. The vast majority of those victims survive that crime without long term consequences....had they used a gun to defend themselves the consequences could be far worse that the average. There is really no logical need to be armed at all times....there are irrational fears which drive people to be strapped at the Dairy Queen when they are craving a blizzard but its not a realistic need because there is no realistic threat to their well being, on average. Again, put your self or find yourself in dangerous situations and all that goes out the window but most people do neither of these things....


Better to have a firearm and not need one than need one and not have it.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24795 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:46 am to
Tommy gun would be bad arse to own!! I did come close to buy what I call a modern day version. It may have been a CMMG brand but was chambered in 45 ACP.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13135 posts
Posted on 5/1/25 at 6:59 am to
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Better to have a firearm and not need one than need one and not have it.



Is it really though? Multiple studies have indicated that having a firearm in your possession increases the odds of someone in your home becoming a victim of gun violence by as much as 200%. Most of these studies place the number around a 30% increased chance someone is going to get shot in a house where guns are present than they will in a house where there are no guns. Given the miniscule odds of being the victim of a violent crime in the US and surviving that encounter with fewer long term impacts than would be present had you used a gun to defend yourself it really is not better to have a gun and not need it.
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