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re: Venomous snake-bitten dog

Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:34 am to
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21565 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:34 am to
Rattlesnake bit two of my son’s doxies on their snouts. The initial bite made one’ s snout swell up like a huge Idaho spud while the second doxie may have gotten a less powerful dose on her snout, hence less swelling. Both recovered without intervention.
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
668 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:56 am to
Most of my dogs have been bitten and done fine without going to the vet.

I did lose one though. She was a 45# lab/golden mix. She as pregnant and it was a week at most from having her pups. By the time we realized what had happened it was too late. She limped into the house, laid down in her bed, and all her puppies started coming out still born. We brought her to the vet to find out what was wrong and she died that night.

She had been bitten on the shoulder and the vet said all her immunity was going to her puppies.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:59 am to
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Benadryl is useless. Dog needs to see the vet. Only actual treatment is antivenom, Pain meds are indicated as well.


Benadryl will cause the dog to calm down and become drowsy. Almost all dogs will survive a snake bite....I personally have never heard of one who didn't but I am sure it can happen. But they also, in typical dog fashion, don't act like there is anything wrong with them even if their snout is swollen like a cantaloupe and they are in pain....my lab has been bitten while hunting and continued to work as if nothing happened with her snout swollen and obviously in pain....had we been at the house a Benadryl would have knocked her out and I would not have been as worried about her hurting....because she won't complain about pain.

Our vet tells us to give the dogs Benadryl before they are placed in a crate to be flown. It calms them down very well and also helps with the pressure from the flight which can make ears and sinuses painful if inflamed. We have done it several times on long flights when we lived outside the US and I have flown my Lab to New Mexico twice and have it to her both times...it works....
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31908 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:18 pm to
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1mg/lb benedryl every 12 hours, call your vet



Was going to say the same.

You also have to watch for the muzzle swelling shut and the pup not being able to breathe.

Many years ago (before cell phones) I had a boykin bitten on the nose deep in the Obed river gorge of Tennessee. We finally got to town and found a pay phone. Called the UTenn Vet school as we were still pretty far out in the sticks. The above advice is what they told us to do.


Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:31 pm to
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Venomous snake-bitten dogRattlesnake bit two of my son’s doxies on their snouts. The initial bite made one’ s snout swell up like a huge Idaho spud while the second doxie may have gotten a less powerful dose on her snout, hence less swelling. Both recovered without intervention.


Dash Hounds can't tolerate a stinking snake LOL. I had a buddy with a Dash Hound in the Caribbean and we would be outside on the patio drinking, smoking cigars and watching college football when the damndest racket you ever heard would commence...and he'd say "Kim...she's got another snake....." and sure as hell this dog, about 10 inches tall at the back and maybe 20 inches long from snout to arse would emerge out of the landscaping with a damned Cuban Boa or some equally larger and loathsome creature, including coral snakes and Cuban racers, both venomous. Most of the time the snake would be graveyard dead but occasionally one of the boas would be giving about as good as it was getting, necessitating some intervention on the part of my buddy and a hoe. Those boas are pretty insistent on completing their meals undisturbed until they are whacked nearly in half with a garden hoe and then the suddenly lose their appetite.

That dog was also blue bloody murder on Banana rats which outweigh the dog by a good 5 pounds or so and Rock Iguanas which are VISCOUS critters when provoked. That little dog had the baddest attitude of any critter I ever saw...if they grew to 200 pounds there would be no way to peacefully co exist with a predator such as that...
Posted by OMWsux
Member since Jan 2015
184 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 1:07 pm to
The dog is doing okay this morning. She is lethargic but that’s probably due to the Benadryl. Swelling continues to decrease although the wound is seeping fluid/blood. We are keeping her in a kennel with a blanket draped over it.

Hopefully, she will learn her lesson when dealing with snakes.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19075 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 4:58 pm to
I would still take her to the vet bites can be nasty and you may need an antibiotic
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6874 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:31 pm to
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Hopefully, she will learn her lesson when dealing with snakes


My experience is either one of two things happen, 1) she runs from snakes now on or 2) she gets pissed off every time she's around a snake (goes into kill mode) and will get bit several more times.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30231 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:34 pm to
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his goofy arse


Damn your's looks like mine...she's goofy as hell too....She ain't ever come up against a venomous snake but with the hell she gives the king snake around my shed I bet she would get her arse bit in a second.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 5:35 pm
Posted by mfiredog
Stonewall
Member since Oct 2016
716 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:57 pm to
If you can get your hands on some Decadron that will also help
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23343 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 6:21 pm to
This is true. Also, anti-venom needs to be given within a certain time frame to be really effective. My dog was bit by a cotton mouth at the end of a teal hunt. I saw her jump back on a rice levee but couldn't see anything when she got back. We loaded up after the hunt, took a few photos, etc... and then headed home. Had an hour and 20 minute drive home.

Opened the kennel up and her neck was about 1.5x larger than normal. Checked the neck and found the bite. Called the vet and we estimated it had been about 2 hours since she had been bitten. He said they had anti venom but after 2 hours it was much less effective. Suggested Benadryl. Did that and the swelling started to subside about 3-4 hours later. Was still swollen up a fair amount that night but came down more overnight. Kept her in the house out of the heat and she mostly just slept. Next afternoon she was pretty close to normal.

That was my experience anyway.
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2703 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:40 pm to
My dad has beagles that he runs year round and get snake bitten often probably cotton mouths. He gives them a shot of azamycine (not sure of spelling) and they are ready up go run in a few days.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5596 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:14 pm to
A buddy of mine was hunting off the new Lafitte Highway before it developed, and a canebrake bit one of his beagles. The dog did not survive the day.
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2703 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:00 pm to
Im pretty sure my dad has never had dog bit by a rattlesnake because there has never been one see in the area in over 50 years of him running dogs. More likely cottonmouths copperheads
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33645 posts
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:13 pm to
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nake-bitten dog by bearhc
A buddy of mine was hunting off the new Lafitte Highway before it developed, and a canebrake bit one of his beagles. The dog did not survive the day.


Canebrake venom is not very dog friendly
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 5:56 am to
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Canebrake venom is not very dog friendly.


Agree, but there is supposed to be a vaccine some vets can give a dog which may help when bit by a canebrake. The vaccine was developed against western diamondbacks, but can also be useful in the case of a canebrake bite.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5596 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 6:22 am to
This particular canebrake was about five feet long and very thick; the dog only lasted about 3 hours. If I can find the picture of my friend holding up the dead snake (killed with .410), I will post it.
Posted by OMWsux
Member since Jan 2015
184 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 9:54 pm to
Condition update

Dog seems to be recovering well. Swelling is substantially reduced. Bite area is black, necrotic, but has developed a thick scab.

We continue to dose Benadryl twice per day. Lots of water and a covered kennel have kept her calm.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32915 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:51 pm to
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a dog toy snake the next week. He won't go near it. If something rattles he's gone
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32915 posts
Posted on 5/19/20 at 11:56 pm to
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if they grew to 200 pounds there would be no way to peacefully co exist with a predator such as that...
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