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Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:27 am to 19557LSU
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How did the oil stay in the engine with no filter? Did I not understand the title?
Look a few post up.
Oil filter in most (maybe all) Toyota’s fit in a housing. It’s a cassette filter, not a canister filter (I may have mixed up my terms there).
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:47 am to kengel2
Wow I have never seen this? Must be new technology filters make sense actually and would save some money I would think, def save on recycling side of things
Posted on 7/6/24 at 9:51 am to upgrade
Well thats retarded.. so you have to go from inside the cab to get to the filter??
I kinda have to do the same in my truck but I put extra trans fluid in from the top of stick shift. Not buy necessity but bc it’s easier then using the small bolt hole on trans
I kinda have to do the same in my truck but I put extra trans fluid in from the top of stick shift. Not buy necessity but bc it’s easier then using the small bolt hole on trans
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:49 am to upgrade
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The little drains they give you are hard as hell to get in the filter housing.
Bout $12 bucks, threads into the plug then you tighten to open and let oil drain. First truck where I haven’t had to at least clean up some oil on the ground after. If I could ever remember what size socket the pan drain plug and skid plate bolts are it would be a 10 min job.
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:05 am to Lsutigerturner
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so you have to go from inside the cab to get to the filter??
What? No. Look at the image a few posts up.
Found out about this Toyota contraption when changing on my wife's 4Runner the first time. Once I had the correct tools, it's not bad at all.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:38 am to Lsutigerturner
Old tech actually. My 2010 V6 Camry and 2012 5.7 Tundra both had these cartridge type filters. Tundra was a pain since you had to drop skid pan to access filter housing.
3/8” extension to remove filter drain plug the and large (24mm ?) socket for the housing removal tool. Don’t cheap out on the housing tool - get the metal one.
Buy filters at dealer (fairly competitive pricewise) and included new pan drain plug washer and plastic fitting to drain filter housing before removal along with new o-rings for housing and its drain plug. Also need a short length of rubber hose to let filter drain into pan/bucket.
Better if doing outside to avoid windy days - lol
Edited to say 3/8” extension actually to remove filter plug
3/8” extension to remove filter drain plug the and large (24mm ?) socket for the housing removal tool. Don’t cheap out on the housing tool - get the metal one.
Buy filters at dealer (fairly competitive pricewise) and included new pan drain plug washer and plastic fitting to drain filter housing before removal along with new o-rings for housing and its drain plug. Also need a short length of rubber hose to let filter drain into pan/bucket.
Better if doing outside to avoid windy days - lol
Edited to say 3/8” extension actually to remove filter plug
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:27 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
^^^^^ Highly recommend. While my main pan is draining, I insert the oil filter drain in and let it go.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:31 pm to speckledawg
Sry I’m mildly retarded I thought you meant removing carpet in vehicle
Posted on 7/7/24 at 2:41 pm to Lsutigerturner
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I thought you meant removing carpet in vehicle
It has a carpeted noise canceling plate underneath.
That’s what I was talking about. It really doesn’t take that long to take it off. It’s just one more unnecessary step to do in the process.
I thought about removing all of it permanently. Maybe one day down the road I will.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:33 pm to upgrade
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thought about removing all of it permanently. Maybe one day down the road I will.
It's mainly there to reduce the drag on the bottom of the vehicle. You can throw it all away if you so choose.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 6:58 pm to thejudge
I can tell you first hand, that if Goodyear changes the oil in your Toyota and replaces the filter, but not the oil, your engine will stop unexpectedly. Possibly on the Hardy Toll Road while trying to catch a flight out of IAH. It’s a damn shame I had to lawyer up to get them to make it right. Oh, and while looking at the blown engine, some numbnut closed the hood with all kind of parts paying on the engine, so they bought me a new hood and painted the whole thing.
Rated them a 1* on Google.
Rated them a 1* on Google.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:32 am to thejudge
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Any concerns on running it that long without a filter?
None. If it had been 20K there would be very little concerns even if it had 150K on it. If its running right now it'll run right from now on. That being said I would certainly let the dealer know that the damned thing did not have an oil filter.
This is why I change my own oil. The stories told by people I know are enough to keep me from paying twice as much to do it and have them strip the drain plug, the oil filter or any number of idiotic things they do with an alarming frequency. Its a pain in my wife's 2 cars because they are so low to the ground and I ain't as low to the ground as I once was but its the price you pay to keep idiots from turning a $50 oil change into a $2500 oil pan or worse replacement.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:36 am to thejudge
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they didn't have the right filter wrench.
We have owned one Toyota (2010 Sequoyah) and this is the reason I will never own another. Just me but if I can't change the oil with a standard filter wrench I wouldn't have it. Damn fine SUV, guzzled gas worse than my GMC 3500.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 8:40 am to thejudge
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Any concerns on running it that long without a filter?
Back in the dark ages all cars had a cannister filter. Many people ran them for years without any sort of filter material and only changed the oil occasionally. Of course cars did not last as long then but it generally wasn't oil related issues that destroyed them by about 100K, the entire vehicle was simply worn out.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:23 pm to AwgustaDawg
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but if I can't change the oil with a standard filter wrench I wouldn't have it.
It's an inexpensive adapter. 14 mm socket fits over it. Not terrible.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:33 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Back in the dark ages all cars had a cannister filter. Many people ran them for years without any sort of filter material and only changed the oil occasionally. Of course cars did not last as long then but it generally wasn't oil related issues that destroyed them by about 100K, the entire vehicle was simply worn out.
I think an oil filter was optional on Chevrolets and their competitors well into the 1950s.
Having a cartridge oil filter on any car made now just seems asinine to me. I'm sure there's a way to do it that's convenient and effective, but as a general concept it has the unwholesome aroma of Volkswagen about it... yeah, I know we're talking about a Toyota here, but that's a total Volkswagen move.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:11 am to thejudge
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It's an inexpensive adapter. 14 mm socket fits over it. Not terrible.
It probably works well for someone who has some semblance of organization in their shop / garage. It takes me an hour to change the oil in one of our 3 vehicles. At least half of that is me looking for tools and cussing the stupid SOB who misplaced them (me). I will say that after locating the socket for the Toyota removing the cannister was easier than a conventional filter...the one on my truck is a PIA....barely enough room for the thin metal to fit between one side of the filter and the transmission.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 10:01 am to thejudge
quote:the 2009-2014 F150s have no cabin air filter.
As the title says.
I just changed the oil in a used Toyota Hughlander with 30k miles on it. Dealer sent it to a Firestone to get tires and change oil.
They left the filter cartridge out. I am going to contact them and let them know.
Any concerns on running it that long without a filter?
i guess a lot of people are learning that there are oil filter cartages now. weird AF.
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 10:14 am
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:59 pm to thejudge
I suspect the most logical reason is the Firestone shop did not have the filter on hand, and could not get one quickly. They sent it out without the filter, figuring (correctly), you'd not know for quite some time. I'm rather surprised there is not some idiot light indicating a pressure difference or something if the filter is not in place.
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