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re: Truck pulls right after new rims and tires...

Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:49 am to
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:49 am to
On the way to work this morninng my TPS sensor light flashed for a bit now it's on full time. I checked the pressures and they were all OK. I guess the tire shop will get the truck again before I get to do a dealership alignment.

Shitty thing is that my son wanted to go drop it in the mud, I promised, right after I go the tires on...now I have to wash the fricker before I bring it in. We didn't go full on mudding, just down a dirt road with some ruts in it.
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:57 am to
quote:

now I have to wash the fricker before I bring it in


You're nicer than I am. Any tire guy worth his weight would have test drove and then swapped the front tires. This is what they do "professionally", they shold not have let your truck leave with new tires on it pulling. Especially if it wasn't pulling with the old tires, his stating that your rims "moved" kinda shows his ignorance.

Sorry for the rant. I worked for BMW for a few years, as well as other manufacturers and ran the service dept at Kirk's for a while. It pisses me off when repair/accessory shops pull sh!t like this.


The TPMS light is probably minor...
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
38708 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:58 am to
Good luck finding a dependable tire shop. I've had major issues with multiple ones involving my Jeep and the daughter's Acura. I don't trust any of them.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39189 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:00 am to
I took it directly out of the bay...they were closing on a Saturday at noon and it was 12:30 or so. I'll bring it back in this afternoon. All this seems better to be communicated directly rather than over the phone.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:02 am to
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Any tire guy worth his weight would have test drove and then swapped the front tires.


That's the issue. 99% of them don't care. The more times you have to come back, the better for them.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:12 am to
The kids that do tires are just a bunch of....kids. Basically all they do are the little shite things that other people don't feel like doing
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38874 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:34 am to
I hate to say I told you so...

But please refer to my first post in this previous thread of yours.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39189 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:55 am to
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refer to my first post


balance of what? I still don't know what you mean. The tires are smooth rolling at all speeds, it just pulls toward the passenger side. I'm going by the tire shop today to have the reset the TPM system and swap the front two tires. If it pulls toward the passenger side still I'll get an alignment Wednesday morning at the dealership.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38874 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:11 am to
Wheels are balanced, and front ends are aligned. Your alignment was done to match the balance of the old wheels.

The new wheels, while balanced, will pull because the alignment is adjusted for the balance of the old wheels.

Technically, I should have said alignment. Nonetheless, by riding newly balanced wheels on an alignment for an old set, you are quickly warping the tread on your new set. Thus, "throwing off the balance".

Long story short, there is a reason people don't have a set of highway tires and a separate set of off road tires. You can not interchange them and expect a quality ride. it doesn't work that way.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39189 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:19 am to
Right on, thanks. After choosing a set of all-terrains and loving the look, I'll get an alignment at my dealer visit wednesday morning and leave them on. I'll still get them to swap fronts so I even out the wear until then.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65066 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:37 am to
May you now have to live with your truck pulling to one side for the rest of your life as penance for fricking with your stuff all the time.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38874 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Right on, thanks.




For sure, I'm not trying to be a smart arse. I had a jeep that taught me this exact lesson. I thought I could just switch out tires and everything would be fine. I soon learned about the "Jeep death rattle". Not cool.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

there is a reason people don't have a set of highway tires and a separate set of off road tires


Because it costs too much and it's a pain in the arse to swap them out.

I've never heard of what you're talking about. You don't use alignment to make up for balance. The two are independent of each other.
Posted by greasemonkey
Macclenny Fl aka south JAWJA
Member since Aug 2012
2773 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:15 pm to
I think he meqns rims wiylth different offset change alignment. which can happen
but gastons rims are stock yota so it shoildnt matter. swap away.

Ill bet flairs other pinky finger that it's a tire
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38708 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Because it costs too much and it's a pain in the arse to swap them out.

I've never heard of what you're talking about. You don't use alignment to make up for balance. The two are independent of each other.



Depends where you live. I have a set of winter and summer tires for my wife's Highlander. It's really a must in snow country. Once you make the initial investment you essentially go twice as long before having to buy tires again.

Find a good tire shop and get a balance and alignment when they swap out your tires.

Glad I didn't take the winter tires off yet because we got pounded by snow today.

Sidestep but holy frick do winter tires make a huge difference on an AWD street vehicle up here.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
38708 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

The kids that do tires are just a bunch of....kids. Basically all they do are the little shite things that other people don't feel like doing



Truth
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3961 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 1:47 pm to
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gastons rims are stock yota so it shoildnt matter. swap away.


FJ wheels do have a slightly more aggressive offset than Tacoma wheels.

The offset, tire size, wheel size, etc. can all be changed without getting an alignment provided that the truck was already in spec. (IF a lift isn't also installed) If his truck was slightly out of alignment the more aggressive offset coupled with a wider more aggressive tire could cause his truck to pull to one side, develop a vibration, etc., that went unnoticed with street tires.

The TPMS light coming on still leads me to believe there is a problem with one of the tires.
This post was edited on 5/12/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38874 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

I've never heard of what you're talking about.


What I am talking about is having a smooth riding vehicle, then swapping the tires and being shocked when it doesn't ride the same even though you had the new tires balanced.

Solution: Go get an alignment.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10510 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Once you make the initial investment you essentially go twice as long before having to buy tires again.


I bought a new Tundra with BFG AT's. They suck in the mud and will serve a purpose as my Summer tires until hunting season when I upgrade to either the BFG MT's or the Nitto mud tires. Then I will swap out after hunting season.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
167093 posts
Posted on 5/12/14 at 2:09 pm to
need moar trucksies
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