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Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by 24nights
North of I10
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:51 pm to
yes
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25836 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:55 pm to
Yeah I was glad my kubota didn’t have def as that could be a problem as the machine sits for periods of time. I have had the machine for four trouble free years. My father in law had a 40 hp Massey that was still running great after 15 yrs and probably 2,000 hours. Got a good portion of original purchase price when he sold it.
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:56 pm to
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If Massey takes quality, parts availability, competitive financing, warranty and SERVICE seriously, (which YOU will be service), they could make a real run at the small tractor market.


Thank you for the feedback, we are very excited and have had a very good experience so far. They do offer zero percent financing for up to 84 months and our parts orders are getting to us in 3 to 4 days. We also will have a lot of parts in stock soon but you can never carry everything.


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PS. Pick your short lines well as this will be a large part of your business. Don’t just do business with any supplier because they sell you on consigned machines or other gimmicks. Do your research. You can get over extended if you take in too many suppliers. Find a good ZT line, power tool, and possibly S x S line eventually to compliment your tracror business. That’s how the better dealerships make it all work but it takes time, don’t get too excited and make bad decisions early on.


Yes, we are also selling Dixie Chopper, Grasshopper, and BigDog zero turns. We will have outdoor power tools by Ego and Redmax. No SxS yet. I am not sure if we want to get into that.

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Sorry to be long winded, but I rely on the success of people like you to do business myself so I want to give all the advice I can. It’s not easy, but if successful can be a very profitable business that can be passed down for generations.


No, this is really good feedback! My grandpaw has had the business for over 50 years. He is finally ready to slow down (He is almost 89 years old, lol) but My family decided that we wanted keep his legacy going. Part of that is investing in new products and Massey was a perfect fit.
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 1:58 pm to
Some models offer the Simpson Diesels, which is a copy of the old Perkins.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6886 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:14 pm to
Has your dealership always had tractors or is this a new addition?
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 2:22 pm to
He has
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Has your dealership always had tractors or is this a new addition?


He has always had tractors but he only sold used tractors.
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
612 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:09 pm to
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Massey Ferguson Tractor


Posted by WilsonPickett
St Amant, LA
Member since Oct 2009
1691 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 3:34 pm to
Customer Service and Parts! If the business has been around that long then you should already understand this. Any pecker can sell a piece of equipment to a customer. The long standing dealers offer good customer service and parts in stock! Customer relations will sell more equipment than any advertisement you can buy.

I tried to buy a Kubota tractor from local tractor dealer. They made me feel like I was bothering them for wanted a tractor. I ended up buying the Kubota L3901 from Lemann's Farm Supply. Salesman took his time to go over the unit and answered all my questions. I bought from right there on the spot.

The REAL challenge down the road will be your service department. As the business grows can you provide the service your customer needs in a timely manner. Quality service technicians can be hard to find and shop turnover is expensive. It's the part of the business that gets most in trouble.

Good luck and welcome to 80hr work weeks!! LOL
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
986 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:03 pm to
Do y’all happen to be located on Florida??
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:07 pm to
I bought one of those Grasshopper front deck zero turns this year and that is a very cool machine!!!

I love the front deck. I can get under shrubs and fence lines. I have a two acre mostly open yard next to my house I can cut in 35 minutes with it. I love that I can turn the deck up and service the blades too.

It was costly but well worth it!!
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 4:25 pm to
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Do ya’ll happen to be located in Florida??


No, we are in Livingston, LA
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6886 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 5:56 pm to
Not sure I agree as Massey has always produced a decent product. No telling how many square bales I picked up from a NH baler being pulled behind a MF 35 Diesel. It was an early 60's model and it's still running, Dad sold it to a guy that raises a truck patch with it.


I'd like to have a 1760 with cab & air but since I would only use it at the deer camp I can't justify the money for it. With that being the case I'm going to continue using my old JD990.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29438 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

official Massey Ferguson Tractor dealer


Be sure to check under the hood of every tractor for hidden Pakistanis.
Posted by Butta
Zachary
Member since Dec 2012
300 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:05 pm to
I’ve got a 1995 Massey Ferguson 231 with about 930 hours in it. Still runs good. Found a place in Mississippi for parts since there isn’t a large network of dealers.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7167 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:18 pm to
Orange tractor
Posted by weisertiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Sep 2007
2517 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:30 pm to
I work at a tractor dealership and have a few points:

1.) You are close enough to Mississippi that you may deal with customers crossing state lines to avoid sales tax. To fight back you can sell into Mississippi and all you have to obtain is a receipt from a towing company stating that the tractor was delivered to Mississippi. Whether or not the customer and towing company actually go that far is not your business, you just need that receipt

2.) Going to be tough to have the same labor rate for lawn mowers and tractors, so have a plan for that.

3.) Good technicians are worth every penny.

4.) Right now inventory is low so you will be able to get more margin than normal, but understand that this is only temporary and your margins will likely have to drop once inventory returns and dealers compete with one another more. Right now whoever actually has the tractor gets the sale.

5.) Your service department should bill the cost of assembly and pre-delivery inspection to the cost of the tractor, that way you account for that when pricing it.

6.) Do not carry everything the manufacturer sales rep suggests. You will end up with all sorts of odd ball shite. Nobody want a 2 wheel drive 25hp tractor with no loader anymore.

7.) Ensure that your sales team documents their follow up activities in some sort of CRM (customer relations manager). Audit this and listen to phone calls to coach sales skills

Posted by Buckshot
Over Here
Member since Aug 2004
253 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 11:44 pm to
Your grandfather is a good man. I stopped by there to pick up a replacement disc for tractor and ended up talking to him for about an hour.

I wish I’d have known what y’all were up to because I bought a lawnmower last fall. Would’ve bought dixie chopper without hesitation but only dixie dealer is the dickhead in watson.

I’ll be in market for tractor before long. May have to check out MF.
This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 11:48 pm
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Your grandfather is a good man. I stopped by there to pick up a replacement disc for tractor and ended up talking to him for about an hour.


Yea, he loves talking to people. I can't tell you how many people come by the store just to shoot the bull with him.
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Be sure to check under the hood of every tractor for hidden Pakistanis.


lol, they don't come out of Pakistan,

No tractor under 100 hp is made in the USA.
Posted by vettegc
Livingston
Member since Dec 2006
503 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

I work at a tractor dealership and have a few points:

1.) You are close enough to Mississippi that you may deal with customers crossing state lines to avoid sales tax. To fight back you can sell into Mississippi and all you have to obtain is a receipt from a towing company stating that the tractor was delivered to Mississippi. Whether or not the customer and towing company actually go that far is not your business, you just need that receipt

2.) Going to be tough to have the same labor rate for lawn mowers and tractors, so have a plan for that.

3.) Good technicians are worth every penny.

4.) Right now inventory is low so you will be able to get more margin than normal, but understand that this is only temporary and your margins will likely have to drop once inventory returns and dealers compete with one another more. Right now whoever actually has the tractor gets the sale.

5.) Your service department should bill the cost of assembly and pre-delivery inspection to the cost of the tractor, that way you account for that when pricing it.

6.) Do not carry everything the manufacturer sales rep suggests. You will end up with all sorts of odd ball shite. Nobody want a 2 wheel drive 25hp tractor with no loader anymore.

7.) Ensure that your sales team documents their follow up activities in some sort of CRM (customer relations manager). Audit this and listen to phone calls to coach sales skills



That is good advice. Very appreciated!
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