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re: Todd Masson caught trespassing?

Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:46 am to
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17540 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:46 am to
Do you have to be a dick to drive a stern/go devil boat? Seems every person I've encountered in one of these is a complete a-hole.
Posted by Theduckhunter
South Louisiana
Member since May 2022
1334 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Do you have to be a dick to drive a stern/go devil boat? Seems every person I've encountered in one of these is a complete a-hole.




That dude was being more of a dick than he needed to be, but Todd isn’t exactly someone I’d like to drink a beer with either.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46423 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:51 am to
many years ago the belle isle salt dome was sold to a big civil contractor from Houma. If you fish or hunt the wax you know the salt dome and surrounding area. We have had an anchored houseboat camp there since before Andrew

before the sale, we were anchored in big wax bayou to the west of the dome, within the property boundaries of the salt dome tract. Technically trespassing because we were affixed to the bottom. We had an agreement with the landowner at the time that we would not deer hunt, we would not duck hunt on private property and we would not access the hard banks. Worked fine until the dome was sold.

After the sale the new landowner wanted us gone. We made an effort to plead our case, offered to lease that part of the bottom we were anchored to, etc etc. they would not consider it so we had to move (now in a private canal off the property to the east of the dome). They then came in with heavy equipment and gated off all of the canal mouths off big wax including the entrances to belle isle lake and the salt dome turnaround

to this day they still harass us because they have several deer stands within sight of our camp. And they run airboats all around at all hours of day and night just to frick with us.

not sure what my point is except the state and the parish were firmly behind private land ownership in this case even though half their “land” goes underwater twice a day and all of it is crisscrossed with natural bayous and streams that connect to the bay and the wildlife refuge
Posted by jcdogfish
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:15 am to
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This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:43 am
Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
17213 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:35 am to
Dude, the FMV of land is determined by the respective parish assessor.

The rules and regs on land assessment and the requirements for use value assessment are free to read and study at the La Tax Commission website.
Posted by jcdogfish
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:41 am to


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Posted by White Bear
AT WORK
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:07 am to
Holy frick man I’m done.
Posted by jcdogfish
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:24 am to
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Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2939 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:11 pm to
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No way this should be as complicated as the state has allowed it to become. Fish have to have water to survive. If the water is tidal, navigation can be completed by a floating boat, and YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE STATED LOUISIANA CREEL LIMIT, the water is public.


Your logic can be applied to all game and I bet you do not have the same sentiment with folks coming on private property to take deer, rabbit, squirrel, and whatnot. They have to have land to feed and we have to abide by the same limits on private and public land as well.

Maybe it is a little more complicated, but I fully expect to be berated for not being on the "it's all public" team with this.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45118 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Both of these are wrong in LA. If it wasn't a navigable water way in 1812, it's not public.







So dumb
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
32682 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 3:27 pm to
The laws might all be complicated. And who knows who's right in this specific circumstance. What's undeniable is that Todd has fished in Louisiana long enough to know to avoid that situation if he wanted to. If nothing else, he's been around long enough to know that fishing in an area like that, whether it is legal or not, can result in your boat being peppered.

There is zero doubt that he fished that spot knowing something negative could result.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46423 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Maybe it is a little more complicated, but I fully expect to be berated for not being on the "it's all public" team with this.
it isnt near as simple as what it is being made out to be. there is also the matter of common courtesy and being respectful of private property rights to unencumbered use. it is common courtesy and common sense not to fish thru a known private duck lease during duck season. that bayou can be fished without conflict 300+ days a year. there is no reason to push your "rights" on to someone else's plate when its not necessary
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33186 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 3:55 pm to
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the judge was rumored to have been a hunting guest prior on the property in question. So maybe not totally impartial.
Louisiana politicians!
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45118 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:06 pm to
I just watched the video. The dude navigated the waterway with his boat and is fishing. That ain't private property. LA needs to change their retarded arse laws.

frick anyone that supports that bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Old0331
EBR
Member since Feb 2022
51 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 8:55 pm to
I’m with you. If I have to pay Parish property tax on it, and/or if I can be sued for something that happens to you on it, it’s not “public,” and you’ve no “right” to be there. That said, I do realize that North and South LA guys see this somewhat differently.
Posted by Big Bill
Down da Bayou
Member since Sep 2015
1604 posts
Posted on 12/22/24 at 9:21 pm to
Scrowe- what you are confusing is tidal water vs land. You cannot own flowing water. Land doesn't move, tidal water does. I'm not going fish a duck pond during duck season. And neither are 99% of fisherman. But when hunting season is over, fishing a pond is fair game. I live close to the above mentioned salt dome and fish around there regularly. I've been asked to leave canals that are tidally influenced after duck season. I always refuse and then get threatened with a ticket/arrest. I know he's bluffing and he's knows nothing is going to happen. The 16th judicial is on the publics side. Terrebonne/Lafourche play to their own drummer; however, the Wagley decision snipped a lot of their ridiculous private property arguments.
Posted by jcdogfish
Member since Apr 2022
113 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:28 am to
You are correct, it is not simple. Where he was fishing is probably "legal" in most other states. It can be argued it should be legal here, but he may in fact have been in "private waters" as per our rulings and laws. I deleted most of my comments on this subject because it is not possible to discuss all the things that led to where we are now on a public forum with limited space. No one would read through a post explaining some of the issues because it would take hours, and short comments without the whole context can sound pretty far out there. After almost 40 years of meetings, research etc I accumulated 14 boxes of papers, copies of deeds, copies of permits, copies of court rulings, minutes, and tons of other stuff. Last year I got rid of it because it clearly does not matter in this state. I'm sorry to say, in my experience, those with the $$$ are the only ones they listen to. Looking back it was all a waste of time on my part
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 8:51 pm to
"We gon' mehk an azample oudda youx"



Did he ever get a ticket?

Because if he didn't, these guys in the duck boat that say they own the trenasse have shown the example to be nothing. Bass fishermen will be going there on the frequents during duck season.



It'd be hilarious if LSU's Bayou Traditions changed their name to Trenasse Tigah Traditions.
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25087 posts
Posted on 12/25/24 at 10:45 pm to
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YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE STATED LOUISIANA CREEL LIMIT, the water is public

That doesn’t mean anything. You still have to follow all daily and season bag limits if you hunt on your own private land.

Only exception is exotic game that isn’t native to the area on high fence places. But even those places have to obey season and bag limits on whitetails and other native game
This post was edited on 12/25/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 12/26/24 at 8:28 am to
Is fishing trespassing really trespassing tho??????? :)
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